Missing girl 15, runs off with Maths teacher.

If the prisoner is let out early for good behaviour (2.75 years) and he gets back together with the girl long term, then I think the rest of the sentence (parole period) should be quashed.

Leyes prison doesn't sound too bad as enhanced-status prisoners get PS2's where most prisons only issue PS1's. Still, the PS2 is old hat as it is 2001 tech.
 
Xordium said:
So you get 5.5 years for a consenting relationship (she would pass Gillick competence at this age even if the law still deems here unable) with a single person almost at the age of consent albeit using a position of power and authority.

Or 1.5 years for systematically forcing yourself on young girls well away from passing any sort of consent assessment...

Guess it depends on the amount of influence you can wield at the end of the day.
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As much as I agree with that last sentiment in a lot of cases, to be fair with the Stuart Hall case, I don't think an 80 year old B-list celebrity has-been convicted of sexual assault on minors will have much left in the way of connections and influence.

It does just seem that the comparatively light sentence was due to the fact the judge was restricted in the sentence he could pass down. If the crimes had happened now then he would have got a much stiffer sentence.
 
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FARGO said:
Obviously a line has to be drawn somewhere but I can't help feeling it odd that something can go from illegal to legal in an instant depending on age.
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It is odd and it is unrealistic, but there are only three options:

1) No age of consent. A rather bad idea.

2) Individual licenses for which people must past suitable tests of maturity. Completely impractical. Who could administer the many millions of tests required? Who would pay for it all? Are fair and accurate tests actually possible? Also potentially dangerous, since people of any age could be forbidden adult powers (e.g. voting, signing binding contracts, etc) based on it.

3) Fixed ages for consent for various things. Inaccurate, but practical and probably the least bad solution.

I think it's wrong that a consensual relationship with someone close to adulthood and close to the age at which their consent gains full legal power is considered much more wrong than sexually abusing children. Wrong, yes, but less wrong than that.
 
RDM said:
The reason he wasn't charged with statutory rape is that no such offense exists in the UK.
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It may not be called "Statutory Rape" but the crime does exist under statute law. Sex with anyone under 13 (12 and under to be clear) is considered rape regardless of "consent".
 
Neil79 said:
SHE made the choice to make out with him, SHE made the choice to leave the country with him, SHE was the one that threatened suicide if she wasn't to be with him. SHE was the one that also put her family through hell as much as He did

As I said both parties are to blame in this
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But what law(s) were broken by her?

None, hence no punishment. He broke several laws.
 
Furbs said:
Well I must have missed that part of teacher training and non of the 7 male trainees I have mentored since have mentioned it either.

I'm not condoning it and you should know better without being told, but training on putting girls off crushes does not happen.
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I am about to retire from teaching and I remember it and the role play associated with it. I was at Teacher Training in Scotland so that might explain the difference.
 
do_ron_ron said:
I am about to retire from teaching and I remember it and the role play associated with it. I was at Teacher Training in Scotland so that might explain the difference.
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Possibly a difference in where you train or just they don't do it anymore. I trained 8 years ago in England and I have never had any advice or training other than :

"do not be in the room alone with a female student"
 
Looks like it isn't over yet. He got her to change her statements through a '3rd' party.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23008649

I have my own suspicions about the 3rd party but cannot air them online. I was once a contractor at the school well before this incident. But I remember 2 incidents (not sexual or anything like that) where the company who sent me their raised concerns about the teacher/student relationship being a little unprofessional.

The school also had an incident in 2009 with a teaching assistant who was jailed for grooming and a School Governor later (not connected to school incidents).

I am amazed after all this the people who are in charge are still in charge.

Seems this may have not have been his first infatuation with under age girls.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...D-A-HALF-YEARS-guilty-abducting-pupil-15.html
 
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It's great how the girl and family can not be named "for legal reasons" but all the stories of when they first left the country are still available with all the details.
 
Neil79 said:
SHE made the choice to make out with him, SHE made the choice to leave the country with him, SHE was the one that threatened suicide if she wasn't to be with him. SHE was the one that also put her family through hell as much as He did

As I said both parties are to blame in this
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SHE is underage and vulnerable. He absolutely did the wrong thing. Regardless of her actions she is still developing physiologically and he should have known better as a teacher. We have complex pastoral support systems for staff and pupils in schools for a reason.

In addition to the training received whilst training to teach, we regularly have training sessions in school - most of it is just common sense and knowing who to report to.
 
SB118 said:
It's great how the girl and family can not be named "for legal reasons" but all the stories of when they first left the country are still available with all the details.
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I too was wondering this. Strange.
 
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