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AMD New Cards Coming Or Price Drops On Tahiti??
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It does happen the other way around too, but nVidia seems to be like Apple, it triggers an emotional response in some people.
I have a preference, but it's not for a company, it's against nVidia because I don't like the way they operate.
So my preference isn't AMD, it's not nVidia, I don't support them by not buying their products.
If a third company popped up, I'd choose between their products and AMD's, and if a fourth popped up, the same again.
I won't buy a Tegra tablet, or an nForce based motherboard (which is especially sad because nForce 2 is my all time favourite chipset).
AMD deserved the treatment they got for Bulldozer, and i'm not particularly impressed with Piledriver, I would and do happily agree its not good enough.
Intel's CPU's are very much better, I don't like their prices. I have been criticall of that to.
I own both Intel and AMD CPU's, I like them both for their own merits, not that AMD's CPU's have many.
I have owned more Nvidia and AMD GPU's than I can count, I currently run a Tahiti LE in my own rig and built a GTX 650TI + i3 rig for my mother who likes to play MMO fantasy games.
From my experience AMD vs Nvidia Drivers are and always have been as stable or as unstable as eachother, while at the moment it seems to be Nvidia who are going through a bad patch that i'm sure they will come out of.
I was critical of AMD 7990 release price and the original price of the 7970, much the same way I am critical of Nvidia's current and past pricing structure.
One thing that seems apparent to me is that when AMD are criticised that criticism is largely a harmonious consensus.
When Nvidia are criticised a small but loud band of people take that criticism very personally, its as if you have just called their Mother a red light working woman.
I am, rightly or wrongly, of the mind that spoffle is right, there is defiantly an emotional connection with Nvidia to some people, its tribal. Nvidia are very good at stirring up those tribal instincts, the way they go about that is to make the whole thing them vs AMD. you are either with us against them, or against us.
Intel's CPU's are very much better, I don't like their prices. I have been criticall of that to.
I own both Intel and AMD CPU's, I like them both for their own merits, not that AMD's CPU's have many.
I have owned more Nvidia and AMD GPU's than I can count, I currently run a Tahiti LE in my own rig and built a GTX 650TI + i3 rig for my mother who likes to play MMO fantasy games.
From my experience AMD vs Nvidia Drivers are and always have been as stable or as unstable as eachother, while at the moment it seems to be Nvidia who are going through a bad patch that i'm sure they will come out of.
I was critical of AMD 7990 release price and the original price of the 7970, much the same way I am critical of Nvidia's current and past pricing structure.
One thing that seems apparent to me is that when AMD are criticised that criticism is largely a harmonious consensus.
When Nvidia are criticised a small but loud band of people take that criticism very personally, its as if you have just called their Mother a red light working woman.
I am, rightly or wrongly, of the mind that spoffle is right, there is defiantly an emotional connection with Nvidia to some people, its tribal. Nvidia are very good at stirring up those tribal instincts, the way they go about that is to make the whole thing them vs AMD. you are either with us against them, or against us.
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While I don't disagree with the comparisons between nvidia and apple, tho I think trying to tarnish people who have a preference for nVidia wholesale with that brush isn't very accurate and possibly even petty, you get just as many people emotionally attached to ATI/AMD if nothing else these forums have proved that over the last 7-8 years.
AMD trolls exist, sure. and yes in the past there have been some pretty prevalent AMD trolls, I remember the days of the HD 5000 series.
But those were very different days, days of blatant trolling by the AMD party.
Today its very different, its all about smearing the other side, its dirty and sleazy, and I feel Nvidia are very much at the forefront of that.
One other thing, Nvidia very much try to lock AMD out of advancements.
While AMD are very much inclusive with their advancements. Take 'Heterogeneous System Architecture', advanced lighting and Physics effects..... all of it created, driven and funded by AMD, Intel and Nvidia have complete and unrestricted access to all of it, anyone who is interested in it is welcome. same with OpenCL, not AMD, Apple actually, but advanced and funded largely by AMD as an open source developers tool.
Compare that to Nvidia locking the competition out of CUDA and gimping PhysX for the competition so it runs like crap for them.
Now you may rightly argue that Nvidia put money into these things so they have the right to keep those things for themselves, fine. But I argue it strangles technical advancement, that effects us the user negatively.
AMD also plough money into their technology, but with that their ideology is anyone and everyone is welcome to it, that creates technical advancement, and Nvidia don't like it because it takes away their edge.
That is one area where you can say AMD could have given themselves an edge over the competition at the expense of broader technical advancement and yet chose not to go down that rout.
It is perhaps a good indication where AMD are on mine and your side more than they are out for themselves.
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while with Nvidia its just all about Nvidia.
You might argue that's a smear from me. your welcome to make that accusation, I stand by it
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Thing is my biggest issue with ATI/AMD is that they talk a big talk about things like that but rarely (ignoring very recent efforts) has anything ever come of it whether its tessellation, physics or whatever, with few exceptions its been nVidia that has delivered on those features and even HSA has a long way to go yet and very little to show so far for the time and effort your citing has been put into it.
AMD has in the past been pretty lack lustre in developing these technologies, once even complaining that they were the only ones funding and advancing OpenCL.
The problem was AMD had never engaged enough with developers to make them see the potential of these technologies, as a result AMD were a bit "why do we bother?"
AMD do now engage with them, and in a big way. now dev's are taking them up on it, Adobe have just tweaked their entire product range to run not only OpenCL, but allsorts of features and advancements GCN GPU's offer.
A range of developers have now signed up to HSA, including Intel of all people.
A mass of game developers are now onboard with AMD. AMD even have a permanent team at EA.
slow start of their own making, but its all moving along very well now.
That basically it, i buy AMD because that's the only alternative to NV because i don't like the way they operate to consumers, when it comes to AMD i don't like the way they had operated internally with bad management, but that's nothing to do with how they are towards consumers.
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Yet another GC thread goes off the rails..
As always, please keep this on topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and preferences.. I don't want to see any more bickering or fanboy accusations. If I have to remove any further posts from this thread, suspensions will be issued, regardless of your history.
As always, please keep this on topic. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and preferences.. I don't want to see any more bickering or fanboy accusations. If I have to remove any further posts from this thread, suspensions will be issued, regardless of your history.
Sorry Huddy, i honestly can't remember what i said though. Any chance of a reminder?
I'm 99% sure i didn't call anyone a fanboy.
Anyway on with the thread.
Humbug please ask Rory if any more price drops are due.
I'm 99% sure i didn't call anyone a fanboy.
Anyway on with the thread.
Humbug please ask Rory if any more price drops are due.
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There is a premium 7970 card on sale at Newegg in America for less than £200. 299 dollars, which includes a 20 dollar rebate. 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4202008&Tpk=100351SR&IsVirtualParent=1&cm_sp=
Is this a sign of the new cards coming and so old stock is being shifted? That price is much lower than what i paid for a 7950 recently.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...4202008&Tpk=100351SR&IsVirtualParent=1&cm_sp=
Is this a sign of the new cards coming and so old stock is being shifted? That price is much lower than what i paid for a 7950 recently.
I'd remove that link
Its ok Newegg are not a competitor as they don't sell in the uk.
Naughty boy Matt.
Just wait until September/October and buy one of those nice new shiny cards to go with BF4. You know you will, don't deny it.
I'm going to deny it, here and now. Prepare a sig if i change my mind.
