K2 vs H80i
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It's not nit-picking. It's called debating, which is what forums are for. You've made a statement, claiming it to be fact and I've countered and asked you to back it up.
I tried having a discussion to your post below.
I choose not to "debate" with as as it is not a discussion but it simply arguing.
Please show proof my statement is false and have a nice day.
General consensus of users is air coolers are more dependable than CLC and cool most applications with no problems.
I choose not to "debate" with as as it is not a discussion but it simply arguing.
Please show proof my statement is false and have a nice day.
I didn't refute the reliability of air coolers. I asked you to provide failure rates for all three methods, particularly since you mentioned specifically the CLC pumps fail more often than custom loop variants.
You chose not to debate because you cannot. Instead your 'go-to' is to suggest that you're being singled out in an attempt to make it look like others are picking on you.
You chose not to debate because you cannot. Instead your 'go-to' is to suggest that you're being singled out in an attempt to make it look like others are picking on you.
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The H80i is enormously unreliable from what I've seen. Pump problems, fan problems, Corsair Link problems etc. Corsair Link in particular is a terrible piece of software and the whole hassle of firmware updates for a cooler is just ridiculous (which is why I favor the H110 and H90).
However, big air coolers take up a huge amount of space in the case and make working in it difficult (I should know, I have a PH-TC14PE).
However, big air coolers take up a huge amount of space in the case and make working in it difficult (I should know, I have a PH-TC14PE).
Big air cooler do take up space over CPU but really their total area isn't much more than CLC. The difference is the CLC radiator & fans are mounted to case so size is not as obvious. Yes, big air coolers do make it harder to access RAM but that's about only problem.. and if we use low profile RAM it's not that much of a problem.. besides, how often do we need to access our RAM?
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This +1. I also found with the H100 and Antec Kuhler 920 that you get a bunch of cables from the fans and pump unit that are sprawled all around, and you can't hide them easily.
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From what i have seen on the water cooling section of the forum which i spend a lot of time browsing, i would definitely say pumps of CLC like the h80i are less reliable than the pumps sold for custom water cooling. I have only ever owned one h80 and its pump gave up pretty quickly, but my 2 D5 pumps and ek 4.0 pump are working fine. I cant remember the last time i saw a post about custom loop pumps failing (i am sure it happens but it is a rare thing). I still own a CLC for my PNY GTX580 but it will soon be replaced by a full cover block whenever i get around to adding more radiators to one of my loops, so i don't have to use such a noisy fan just to keep temps down.
It's not about accessing the RAM though is it. Most big air coolers will not fit full stop with standard RAM sizes.
Now if, hypothetically I'd bought, say Dominator Plats before buying a big air cooler, imagine how annoying it is, having spent a small fortune on that specific RAM to have to go out an buy more, less aesthetically pleasing, low profile RAM.
That's where CLC comes in for those with a budget that won't stretch to custom loop.
Other than the 4-pin PWM cable, which would be there with a big air cooler, there's 1 cable and under ordinary lighting (not the bright flash that went off when taking the above) that ONE cable is almost invisible.
Granted if I were running the fans from the block there would be 2 more but they would just be as invisible as the one pictured.
*Sigh*
There are literally tens of thousands of big air coolers in use today over standard RAM.
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That is very visible to me
, and 4 of those cables going to the CPU block drives me insane. With my K2, I can easily hide my fan cables below the heatsink.
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To be fair, if you were silly enough to go out and buy Dom plats while planning to cover them with a big air cooler that won't fit, you're an idiot who should've done his research first
....And since the big air cooler would be covering the less aesthetically pleasing ram anyway, there wasn't much point in buying the pretty stuff in the first place and expecting to ogle at it.
Edit: Of course, you could just get a good single tower or a dual tower that's set back for ram clearance and use any ram you like.
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Ram wise, tall heatfins/pipes etc are a gimmick tbh. Theyre not needed. I had ocz reapers in another system, possibly the tallest ram kits ever produced. The pipes were nothing but a hindrance. Currently running 8gb of samsung green, oc's like crazy, but runs so cool it doesnt even need a heatspreader let alone fins or pipes.
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If you research fitments and ask questions all these issues can be avoided.
I understand people like the closed loop coolers and each come up with their own reasoning as to why they are better or prefer them.
I prefer big air cooling, or custom water.
I understand people like the closed loop coolers and each come up with their own reasoning as to why they are better or prefer them.
I prefer big air cooling, or custom water.
most of the chips we use in SI are OEM and dont' come with stock coolers. I would imagine other companies are the same with built systems which is what this topic was initially about. Yes ofc if you built your pc yourself you would keep the cooler if it came with one.
anythign smaller than the patriot ram. will definitely fit just fine.
Kingston Hyper X, Vengeance Low Profile, Team Vulcan, Gskill ripjaws. Blackdragon will be fine too.
