Got conned, fake Bose NC headphones :(

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Well it's my own fault I guess as I bought them off of gumtree and if something is too good to be true it usually is!

The headphones are the Bose NC-15. I have other decent headphones but wanted to try some of these and see how they compared especially for the noise cancelling. I heard Bose do the best noise cancelling and they were the limited edition version so in blue. And at £130 I thought I was in for a bargain. How wrong was I!!

To be fair they are very very good copies and all the serial numbers are in the right places. The noise cancelling feature works as it should and they sound pretty okay. It was only when I was started scrutinizing them that I noticed some little tell tale signs. I also found a side by side comparison online that confirmed this.

Well gutted
 
What are you going to do about it? Tell the seller you want your money back or you will involve the Police
 
I've just been in contact with the seller and he was very understanding. He said he would meet back up and give me a full refund :)
 
That's good. I bet most people wouldn't have noticed and he would have got away with.
 
That's good. I bet most people wouldn't have noticed and he would have got away with.

Very true. It was only because I am a geek and started looking at them closely.

I don't actually think Bose stuff is all that bad and they have some good products and ideas. I do agree they are overpriced though for what they are.
 
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In fairness BOSE are very good at marketing

BOSE equipment is good in some areas, the system in my Mercedes SL500 is very good indeed for example for a car system.

I also went and bought Kef eggs as a discrete system for our main living room, and i actually regret it, as they are rubbish. I am sure the BOSE demo i had was better than the Kef's i bought.
 
Kef's are crap, every audition i have ever involved Kef in has resulted in 5 mins wasted audition time. I wouldn't be surprised if Bose did sound better.
 
Kef's are crap, every audition i have ever involved Kef in has resulted in 5 mins wasted audition time. I wouldn't be surprised if Bose did sound better.

This is the issue, it is all very well calling BOSE equipment rubbish, but what is actually better? Everybody at the time was of the opinion that the Kefs were the ones to go for, yet they are no better than the BOSE offering in my opinion.
 
Kef's are crap, every audition i have ever involved Kef in has resulted in 5 mins wasted audition time. I wouldn't be surprised if Bose did sound better.

Very generic statement there, so what offerings are you talking about then and how are you comparing them. I have a set of kef floorstanders which wipe the floor with anything bose i have ever heard
 
Eggs, as discussed right above the post :confused:

Thing is, he calls them crap (and i call them rubbish), but doesnt suggest anything which would actually be better than the Kef/Bose offerings :p
 
Eggs, as discussed right above the post :confused:

Thing is, he calls them crap (and i call them rubbish), but doesnt suggest anything which would actually be better than the Kef/Bose offerings :p

Well the guy I quoted before just states general any KEF ever heard so that doesn't specifically mean the eggs, hence why I was asking
 
The statement quite clearly cant apply all over, i have some old Kef Reference series floorstanders and they are quite frankly superb bits of kit.

Its the small speakers which i dont rate at all, but then its probably me being used to the sound of floorstanders for too long.
 
The statement quite clearly cant apply all over, i have some old Kef Reference series floorstanders and they are quite frankly superb bits of kit.

Its the small speakers which i dont rate at all, but then its probably me being used to the sound of floorstanders for too long.

Well that's the thing. When people think Bose or Kef they normally think about the discrete sound systems. They sound great for their size, but are never going to match the acoustic properties of full sized or bookshelf speakers.

It's just comparing different products. These discrete systems fill a niche for people that don't want a massively visable sound system. You can't really compare them to a full sized system.
 
heard the eggs, as well as the iq range and also the range before the reference about 5 years ago and they all sounded flat at the top end, mid was nice and bass was reasonably taught. but it just sounded like they were singing from behind a duvet. now if you wanted surround sound the bowers and wilkins mini cinema sounded pretty good to me on the end of arcam electronics.

but in the end i went for a 2 channel setup as it lent its self better to the layout of the room.
 
Love how people just say Kef eggs

1005, 2005, 2005.2, 3005, 3005se ???? which kef eggs?

and which bose system?

I had a pair of 3005se and took them back to the shop. Swapped them for Quad Lites which IMHO are far FAR superior (and look better)
 
Maybe it's the dual concentric drivers in small housings, or poor efficiency in the design, but like others here I have used, sold, installed and set-up client's own KEF eggs (1005, 2005) with what I know to be decent sounding stereo amps and receivers and never been particularly impressed. The description of singing behind a duvet probably sums it up. I found the speakers lacking treble and any sense of dynamics unless driven hard. The same is true for me about Tannoy Arenas; another dual concentric mini speaker.

By contrast, the first pair of really good home stereo speakers I heard were KEF Concords and there was certainly no lack of treble sparkle from them. I have installed and set up systems using KEF's THX TDM home cinema speakers on several occasions (most recently last week), and installed T305's, Q700/Q100/Q200c and also heard Reference Model Twos on enough occasions to know that the "early egg" sound is not a true representation of what KEF can do. However, KEF's inceiling/inwall series share the egg sound and for that reason I won't use or recommend them.

IMO Bose home audio and home cinema products are the polar opposite of the sound of early KEF eggs.

I came to know Bose through specifying, supplying and installing commercial PA and large venue sound systems back in the late 80's/early 90's. Bose 802 and the Panaray column speakers sounded great, so I asked the rep if he could lend me something from the domestic range to try at home. It was something like the Acoustimass 3 or its equivalent from the time; two satellites and a bass module. Auditioned alone it sounded passable, but when A/B dem'ed against my Tannoys it became very obvious what was wrong. The treble was harsh, the strong bass was simply one dominant frequency, and the midrange just wasn't there.

In the last 25 years I have set up enough systems where clients already own Bose that I know my first experience wasn't an exception. Clients succumb to Bose's slick advertising and are seduced by the tiny cubes. It's only when they've lived with a system a while and then hear something with a more complete tonal balance that it dawns on them that there's something better. As an example, I demo'ed a pair of inceiling speakers to a client versus their Lifestyle 25 system. Bear in mind that the inceiling speakers were propped up by the skirting board, so not installed and not in their best position, yet they still sounded better than his Bose system. He was shocked to his core. His first comment to me was "But this (Bose) was a really expensive system"

Like KEF, I pick and choose which Bose systems I supply and install. I like their outdoor speakers. These come from the Bose commercial stable, and I feel it shows in the quality and performance. I'll also use Acoustimass systems for background music where it plays at low level so an excess of treble and bass is a positive advantage. What I won't do is recommend Bose domestic gear as a foreground music/movie solution. There are better sounding and equally small products out there. I was playing around with the Cambridge Audio Minx S225's a couple of weeks ago. They did a creditable job with movies on the end of a basic Yamaha AV amp.
 
I remember reading an article last year by someone that used to work for Bose, and the article contained a little secret about their in-store demos. The fact that they only use certain films/music that show off their system in that particular environment, and they won't let you bring in your own media to try out speaks volumes IMO.

I do actually have a 2.1 Bose system for use with my iMac - simply because I got it for a stupidly discounted price and was a bit naive ~4/5 years ago. I haven't got round to replacing it because I'm not sure what I want, but it won't be Bose!
 
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