Will I benefit from upcgrading to self-contained water cooling?

banjoted · 25 Jun 2013 at 11:00

Morning

I'm currently running an i5 3570k with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. I'm oc's to 4.2 but if I go to 4.3 I get some uncomfortable temps on the core (85 plus). Would I notice any drop in temps by changing the 212 to a self contained CPU water cooler - something like say a Corsair H80i?

andybird123 · 25 Jun 2013 at 11:33

possibly yes, but you'd see similar drops in temp by just changing to a better air cooler
I'm assuming you are looking at a compact cooler due to potential memory size issues?

there are plenty of decent air coolers that are compatible with big ram

what voltage are you running? Ivy is well known for high temps due to TIM inside the heatspreader - not much you can do about that and even full watercooling struggles to keep an ivy cool

kyle1970 · 25 Jun 2013 at 12:12

andybird123 said:
Ivy is well known for high temps due to TIM inside the heatspreader - not much you can do about that and even full watercooling struggles to keep an ivy cool

can delid and reaply if youve got the balls to do so

banjoted · 25 Jun 2013 at 12:28

I haven't increased the voltage at all. Hit a temperature ceiling before I could. And there's NO WAY I'm delidding a £170 CPU!

banjoted · 25 Jun 2013 at 12:41

So which air coolers would give me superior performance to the Hyper 212 Evo?

kyle1970 · 25 Jun 2013 at 14:02

banjoted said:
And there's NO WAY I'm delidding a £170 CPU!

lmao

james_2k · 25 Jun 2013 at 14:03

banjoted said:
I haven't increased the voltage at all. Hit a temperature ceiling before I could. And there's NO WAY I'm delidding a £170 CPU!

do it. kaapstaad did it to a 900£ cpu!

kyle1970 · 25 Jun 2013 at 14:12

james_2k said:
do it. kaapstaad did it to a 900£ cpu!

exactly why i cracked up,£170 is hardly an expensive CPU,but then i guess its if you can afford to replace it.CPUs r tougher than they look and ud be surprissed how easy it is

andybird123 · 25 Jun 2013 at 14:17

just to be clear, what voltage are you running at? what is it set to in the bios and what does CPU-Z report?

please don't tell me it's set on "auto" in the bios :eek:

I recently did a haswell build at 4.5ghz with a Phanteks PH-TC12DX (vengenace ram as well) with no issues at 1.25v
hits low 80's with Prime95, and stays below 80 in normal gaming

banjoted · 25 Jun 2013 at 16:07

I'm not on the machine at the moment so can't get the exact number but no, it's not on auto. It's set to the default whatever that is (used a guide).

And I'm sorry for being such a pauper that I'm unwilling to delid a CPU that costs a mere £170. ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY QUID. I can just imagine the conversation with my other half.

"Yeah, you know that CPU I bought a few weeks ago?"
"Yes, what about it?"
"I've got to buy another one."
"Why?"
"I took it apart and broke it."
"Why the **** did you do that you ****ing idiot?"
"A guy on the internet laughed at me when I said I wouldn't so I thought that I would."
/kicks me in the ********

Something Else · 28 Jun 2013 at 18:36

kyle1970 said:
exactly why i cracked up,£170 is hardly an expensive CPU,but then i guess its if you can afford to replace it.CPUs r tougher than they look and ud be surprissed how easy it is

£170 may not be a lot to you but not everyone can afford to right off that kind of money.

illuz · 28 Jun 2013 at 19:00

james_2k said:
do it. kaapstaad did it to a 900£ cpu!

And which cpu was this? Currently only Ivy bridge and Haswell processors can be delidded, no enthusiast line processors...

Delidding is worth it. Use the hammer and vice method, anyway there's no point in him delidding yet as he can get better cooling by swapping his cooler.

Look at:
Alpenfohn k2
Silver arrow extreme
Noctua ndh-14
Phanteks phtc14pe

I wouldn't go with a CLC, I just don't trust them.

Greybeard · 28 Jun 2013 at 19:22

The difference in temps won't be night and day or you may not even see a gain. Noise level will most likely be the same as well...

Clearly, the only real benefit I see is Corsair Link feature of the cooler and that's about it....