Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s refurbishments cost taxpayer £1m

Biohazard said:
http://www.visitscotland.org/research_and_statistics/visitor_research/global.aspx

http://www.visitscotland.org/pdf/Glasgow Facts & Insights 2011.pdf

http://www.visitscotland.org/pdf/Ab...isitor Survey 2012 final_pptx [Read-Only].pdf

There was roughly 3 million people visiting Glasgow and Aberdeen in the last reporting period.

Scotland has a booming tourist industry, not just Edinburgh which is admittedly the star attraction when it comes to a historical outlook but that does not mean that our visitors confine themselves to it if they come to Edinburgh at all in the first place.
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I would never visit Glasgow again, and the backpackers I stayed with agreed we stayed one night instead of 4 and went back Edinburgh.
Bunch of sad pathetic muppets in Glasgow trying to start fights all the time, either because of my accent, my shirt had blue on it or the fact i was talking to some random girls. That and the Irish guys sing IRA songs in the middle of the day put me off for life. Rest of Scotland wasn't too bad except for the midges and the offensive attitude from some of the locals when trying to buy stuff like food from a pub or asking for directions.
 
matdom said:
France does not have Royals, and it still generates a lot of income, from old buildings. So the argument does not make any sense, the Royals dont indirect generate income the assets do, so we don't need them.
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Only because of the South of France and the Alps, France's most visited tourist destination. Very little to do with old buildings in Paris or castles in the the North of France.

Last time I checked, the UK doesn't have an area with a mediterranean climate and doesn't border the greatest mountain range in the world.

Biohazard said:
Are they above transparency?
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Given they are one of the most photographed, filmed and documented families on the planet I'd suggest you know a lot more about them than they ever will about you.
 
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Abraxaz1 said:
I would never visit Glasgow again, and the backpackers I stayed with agreed we stayed one night instead of 4 and went back Edinburgh.
Bunch of sad pathetic muppets in Glasgow trying to start fights all the time, either because of my accent, my shirt had blue on it or the fact i was talking to some random girls. That and the Irish guys sing IRA songs in the middle of the day put me off for life. Rest of Scotland wasn't too bad except for the midges and the offensive attitude from some of the locals when trying to buy stuff like food from a pub or asking for directions.
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lol like anywhere it depends where you go.
 
Biohazard said:
lol like anywhere it depends where you go.
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Odd London I didn't get any issues, hell I was in Fez and got treated better than in Glasgow. The only place I've had that level of hostility from the locals is north Wales but there just bitter and twisted and areas of Istanbul.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
Odd London I didn't get any issues, hell I was in Fez and got treated better than in Glasgow. The only place I've had that level of hostility from the locals is north Wales but there just bitter and twisted and areas of Istanbul.
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why are you attacking Scotland ? keep you're bigoted view to your self.
 
estebanrey said:
Given they are one of the most photographed, filmed and documented families on the planet I'd suggest you know a lot more about them than they ever will about you.
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I'm talking about their interactions with the exchequer and ownership over several 'public' assets. The information commissioner is of the view that they are like any other public body; they disagree and would like to keep some of their affairs that cross over into the public domain private.

They can't have it both ways.
 
estebanrey said:
Only because of the South of France and the Alps, France's most visited tourist destination. Very little to do with old buildings in Paris or castles in the the North of France.

Last time I checked, the UK doesn't have an area with a mediterranean climate and doesn't border the greatest mountain range in the world.



Given they are one of the most photographed, filmed and documented families on the planet I'd suggest you know a lot more about them than they ever will about you.
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Top English tourist attraction is the Tower of London
Top French tourist attraction is Eiffel Tower
http://www.visitbritainshop.com/world/articles-and-features/top-10-english-tourist-attractions.html
Buckingham Palace and Kensington Gardens are not in the Top ten they are not even in the top 20 free or paying.
http://www.visitengland.org/insight-statistics/major-tourism-surveys/attractions/Annual_Survey/

Overall trends in gross revenue 2008-2009 London is 2nd from last.
 
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doofer said:
Tourism and the Crown Estates are the two favourite chestnuts the 'Value for money' brigade like to spew but the Crown Estates are actually the Nation's assets and the Tourism angle is only based on estimates and surveys, it cannot be properly quantified.
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The Crown Estates revenues were surrendered to the State by each successive Monarch in return for the Civil List. Last year this changed so that now the Monarch gets 15% of the annual net revenues of the Crown Estates in the form of a Sovereign Grant to cover Royal Expenditure, including the equivalent of the Civil List, Travel, and Maintenance of Royal Palaces and the State receives the rest.

So it is not quite as straight forward as the Crown Estates being assets of the State or the Taxpayer funding the Royal Family, particularly the example in the OP.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
Odd London I didn't get any issues, hell I was in Fez and got treated better than in Glasgow. The only place I've had that level of hostility from the locals is north Wales but there just bitter and twisted and areas of Istanbul.
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I've never had problems in Glasgow, but have had in London and Southend?

What does that mean?

Nothing, other than two individuals with chips on their shoulder. I didn't let it tar my experience there, which are normally quite good since I'm a country dweller at heart.. well as good as you can get in souffhend. ;)
 
Biohazard said:
Should the civil list be subject to FoI?.
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The Civil List (The Sovereign Grant now) is accountable to the National Audit Office and the Royal Household is treated as any other Government Dept since 2012. Full details of public funding to the Royal Household (including the Civil list and now the Sovereign Grant) has been freely available annually online since 2001.
 
Firestar_3x said:
By 'booming' I trust you mean less visitors than last year and way behind the 2007 peak???

Overseas visitors have been decreasing since 2006, from 741k to 475k.

Congratulations on a great international success story in Glasgow.

I've visited the city lots if times on business and I can't wait to leave.
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The links I have provided show millions of visitors annually for Glasgow, which actually does have a wide range of appeal and attraction particularly for the arts. I like and dislike Glasgow, I take the **** out of them something awful but I can certainly enjoy Glasgow from Edinburgh.

Scotland has performed relatively better in terms of tourists and has also seen growth in expenditure over the course with many successful events in the past few years. There are several micro-tourist industries that are reporting against the odds increase in footfall, partly driven by austerity I would imagine.
 
Castiel said:
The Civil List (The Sovereign Grant now) is accountable to the National Audit Office and the Royal Household is treated as any other Government Dept since 2012. Full details of public funding to the Royal Household (including the Civil list and now the Sovereign Grant) has been freely available annually online since 2001.
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Should the civil list be subject to FoI?
 
Biohazard said:
Should the civil list be subject to FoI?
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The Civil List no longer exists...the Sovereign Grant, because it is subject to the National Audit Office and all the papers relating to the Sovereign Grant are held by the National Audit Office which is subject to FoI, means that effectively, the "Civil List" is subject to FoI.....the Royal Household directly however is not as it is not a public body....Since 2012, The Sovereign Grant is treated as a Govt Dept (unlike the defunct Civil List) so is subject to FoI. As the Civil List before 2012 was freely available, a FoI was unnecessary anyway, today the Royal Household and the mechanism for funding it is separate, which solves the problem you are asking.

Your question is therefore moot.
 
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Castiel said:
The Civil List no longer exists...the Sovereign Grant, because it is subject to the National Audit Office and all the papers relating to the Sovereign Grant are held by the National Audit Office which is subject to FoI, means that effectively, the "Civil List" is subject to FoI.....the Royal Household directly however is not as it is not a public body....Since 2012, The Sovereign Grant is treated as a Govt Dept (unlike the defunct Civil List) so is subject to FoI.

Your question is therefore moot.
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Stop being pendatic you know what I mean. Should the grant, duchy etc be subject to FoI?

Regulatory audit is not the same thing.
 
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