Channel 4 to broadcast the Islamic call to prayer every morning during the holy month of Ramadan

FoxEye · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:16

dowie said:
was a 14 year old boy (who hasn't been to school for the past couple of years) - he was selling coffee, someone asked him for a free cup, he said something along the lines of 'Not even if the Prophet Mohammed comes back'

Yeah, utterly tragic

Not hard to understand why people have certain reservations about Islam, when Muslim-run countries have such appalling disregard for human life; equality; justice...

bitslice · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:16

dowie said:
was a 14 year old boy (who hasn't been to school for the past couple of years) - he was selling coffee, someone asked him for a free cup, he said something along the lines of 'Not even if the Prophet Mohammed comes back'

Well, who wouldn't totally rageface over that?

I'm also appalled at the recent beheading of a Catholic priest using an ordinary kitchen knife, why won't the Western governments supply these Syrian rebels with proper swords? It's barbaric :mad:

mattyfez · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:16

UncleRuckus said:
If it has been badly translated can you say that it is in fact a false statement? Or that what you are refuting is true?

If it's badly translated, then it can only represent the opinion of the translator, as they have to fill in the gaps. and possibly push an agenda. times that a few times over time and you end up with quite an abstract lol!

Biohazard · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:17

UncleRuckus said:
If it has been badly translated can you say that it is in fact a false statement? Or that what you are refuting is true?

Even if it was it can hardly be considered exclusive.

Biohazard · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:17

UncleRuckus said:
Yes!

Sweet.

thekhalida1 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:20

mattyfez said:
If it's badly translated, then it can only represent the opinion of the translator, as they have to fill in the gaps. and possibly push an agenda. times that a few times over time and you end up with quite an abstract lol!

Exactly well said

UncleRuckus · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:22

mattyfez said:
If it's badly translated, then it can only represent the opinion of the translator, as they have to fill in the gaps. and possibly push an agenda. lol!

Well I don't know about agenda, as arranged marriages with minors still happens in Islamic countries. So what Muhammad did was certainly not out of the ordinary..

thekhalida1 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:22

FoxEye said:
Yeah, utterly tragic Not hard to understand why people have certain reservations about Islam, when Muslim-run countries have such appalling disregard for human life; equality; justice...

Disregard for human life. What about certain countrys going to war on a whisker. I guess they have better value of life

thekhalida1 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:24

UncleRuckus said:
Well I don't know about agenda, as arranged marriages with minors still happens in Islamic countries. So what Muhammad did was certainly not out of the ordinary..

Kardinal keith obrien.

mattyfez · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:24

FoxEye said:
Yeah, utterly tragic Not hard to understand why people have certain reservations about Islam, when Muslim-run countries have such appalling disregard for human life; equality; justice...

To be fair, Christians are just as bad. There are a few documentaries regarding child abuse etc. they are not hard to find.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, religion has no place in society.
Until the human race 'grows up', we will continue to have these horrible problems.

Biohazard · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:26

UncleRuckus said:
Well I don't know about agenda, as arranged marriages with minors still happens in Islamic countries. So what Muhammad did was certainly not out of the ordinary..

So what are you saying?

dirtychinchilla · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:28

Castiel, you can get call to prayer apps on iPhones, and I guess, therefore, on Android too. May be worth getting one of those as an alarm clock

Lysander · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:28

T345 said:
Meh, this comment on the Facebook page sums up most not all views on this

I really hope you don't believe that. Many Muslims would be utterly ashamed to read that. It's the dribblings of a fundamentalist.

FoxEye · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:29

mattyfez said:
To be fair, Christians are just as bad. There are a few documentaries regarding child abuse etc. they are not hard to find.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, religion has no place in society.
Until the human race 'grows up', we will continue to have these horrible problems.

One doesn't excuse the other, does it...

And let's face it, the (minority) of abusive priests have to hide what they're doing for fear of being imprisoned, etc.

In these Muslim countries, they behead, stone, flog and murder people in the streets, whilst the crowds chant "God is great". It's something that hasn't happened in this country for centuries.

And God help you if you're a girl.

UncleRuckus · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:29

Biohazard said:
So what are you saying?

I think it's very dangerous to idolise people who abuse children and allow it to spread because with it brings more child abuse.

thekhalida1 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:32

UncleRuckus said:
I think it's very dangerous to idolise people who abuse children and allow it to spread because with it brings more child abuse.

Exactly

bitslice · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:32

mattyfez said:
To be fair, Christians are just as bad. There are a few documentaries regarding child abuse etc. they are not hard to find.

But that isn't being 'fair',
Christians, (or rather people just saying they are Christian) are not beheading randoms for the greater glory of God, and while such things are a crime in this country they are ignored in Muslim countries, it being culturally acceptable to say take a young boy in Afghanistan.

Jono8 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:32

One day we will all evolve to realise religion is obsolete and that we have in fact created and evolved true morality within ourselves.

Obviously religion was useful when we were making the transition from axe and sword wielding barbarians to a scientifically enlightened race. It helped us fear wrong doing and animal like tendency's. Ofcourse faith can be still important today but I do hope mainstream and "die-hard" religion will dissapear eventually.

Also, Getting up at 4am to speak to an imaginary friend in the sky.....ain't nobody got time for that.

UncleRuckus · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:34

Jono8 said:
One day we will all evolve to realise religion is obsolete and that we have in fact created and evolved true morality within ourselves.

Beautifully put.

thekhalida1 · 2 Jul 2013 at 23:35

Jono8 said:
One day we will all evolve to realise religion is obsolete and that we have in fact created and evolved true morality within ourselves.

Obviously religion was useful when we were making the transition from axe and sword wielding barbarians to a scientifically enlightened race. It helped us fear wrong doing and animal like tendency's. Ofcourse faith can be still important today but I do hope mainstream and "die-hard" religion will dissapear eventually.

Also, Getting up at 4am to speak to an imaginary friend in the sky.....ain't nobody got time for that.

Yes they do clearly people do have time

Channel 4 to broadcast the Islamic call to prayer every morning during the holy month of Ramadan

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