To be honest, I'd prefer society to not have to be encouraged in such a way.
But it may hammer home that they themselves may need an organ & to not sign up costs lives.
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But it may hammer home that they themselves may need an organ & to not sign up costs lives.
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I really struggle to understand why you need any part of your body when you die. Personally, I think it will give me comfort in my old age to know that I'll be buried somewhere, but does it really make a difference? I'll have no idea. I'll give all my organs away if people will have them. I've got no use for them and they could improve someone's lief. I'll never know that I gave them the organs, but have the satisfaction of knowing that I could help one day.
At times in this country common sense doesn't always prevail! I completely agree though that if you are not willing to provide any of your organs then you shouldn't get priority over those who are. I'd go a step further and say if you have received an organ transplant you get opted in and can't opt out.
I have had several Donor cards. I've lost them all. I rarely have all my cards in my wallet, and probably would've taken out the donor card at some point. I'm happy for anyone to have my innards should I snuff it. I'm for this opt-out idea.
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What about people coming around the world for transplants? the current system is fine, if you want to opt in that you can sign up.
Just because I have not opted out does not mean the government can harvest my organs.
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+1 i agree with that too. ive had a card since i was a teenager.
if you are that religious you dont believe in donating organs after death then you shouldnt be allowed a transplant either. that seems fair to me. you cant have it both ways.
i dont care what happens to my body after i die. might as well use the bits that work for someone else who needs it. i wouldnt use my lungs though, they are a bit knackered these days
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Just because you lose your donor cards does not make a strong argument for opt out. Consent is the issue here.
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I shouldn't really comment as I'm biased. I will need a new heart at some point in the future.
But for my tuppence worth, I think it is a great idea. How many young people die each year while waiting for transplant while thousands of perfectly good organs go through the furnace or under the ground.
A body is just that, a body. A vessel for life. I don't care if the state own mine. As long as I can use it until my days are over and I'm not taxed on it, then so be it.
But for my tuppence worth, I think it is a great idea. How many young people die each year while waiting for transplant while thousands of perfectly good organs go through the furnace or under the ground.
A body is just that, a body. A vessel for life. I don't care if the state own mine. As long as I can use it until my days are over and I'm not taxed on it, then so be it.
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So if you dont give blood, you should not receive it, going by your argument.
I assume if you suffered a serious injury & needed a donation you would be happy just kicking the bucket then?.
What's wrong with the current system?, we don't have enough organs to donate to people who need them.
We are not desperately short of blood.
This comparison holds no water.
If only 5% of the population are on the organ donor register it means that 95% of the population are reliant on them incase they need an organ.
Now, if people like you got denied organs then that would be fine - as it would be 5% of the population willing to donate to 5% of the population who is able to get them.
Obviously, I'd prefer an opt out system - but at least the above makes allocation of organs more balanced & may encourage more people to opt in (due to self-interest).
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Really it's not even encouragement. Society is lazy, forgetful, doesn't like to reflect on it's own mortality. Your organs are best when you're young and healthy and nobody wants to die young and healthy.
This is literally one of the only times where opt-out seems fair, generally I'm highly against opt-out schemes.
But how do they check, if I'm dead? Either way.
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96% of us rely on the other 4% to give blood. Please don’t leave it to someone else.We urgently need more O- and B- donors to donate as stocks have fallen.
There is a shortage of Blood donations in this country.
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This thread has just reminded me to reregister for my organ donation card. Last time I checked I didn't appear to be on the system for some reason.
Oh I do agree I'd prefer an opt out system.
But I'd also prefer an opt in system (of both donation & receiving) if we can't have the above.
I don't think it's right for society to rely on a small minority of people with a social concious for organ donation which results in the death of many.
Now, if those who are so against donation would refuse an organ outright when faced in certain death - then yes, I'd accept it a little more - but who honestly thinks people that selfish & self-centred would accept death on the grounds of "fairness" lol.
How many people die due to us not having blood for transfusions in the UK annually?.
Yes, more people should donate blood - but you are not helping your argument, just adding another potential thing you should be refused if you don't donate.
I assume if it ever comes to needing an organ you will die gracefully & not help yourself to the organs of your betters right?
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If they bring in an opt out then I will opt out..I carry a card now, but that is my choice. .if the default positive position becomes the choice of the state then I will no longer carry one.
The default position should always be in favour of the individual, not the State.
The default position should always be in favour of the individual, not the State.
The state doesn't benefit from opt out, it's individuals who do.
Yeah...."unless you agree to what we tell you then you dont get to live"....yep thats freedom at its best....
