Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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It's almost as if they're stuck in the past when it comes to player values and so forth.

Let's say Real Madrid (a club that are hardly desperate for money etc) are demanding... £28m... for Higuain, then Arsenal should just get it sorted. He's very much a proven goalscorer and has a lot of experience as well, losing out over £3/4m would just be insane.

As long as you're spending it on the right players there shouldn't be much of an issue for a club the size of Arsenal.

Trust me i agree with you, its just utterly ridiculous that we are stalling over a few million for Higuain unless Wenger has someone else in mind and is waiting to see how that pans out ie Rooney even though Utd have told us he is not for sale.

But still we shouldnt be looking at just one world class player, we should be looking at a few at least.

People do realise the Manager doesn't have all the say in how much the club is willing to pay for a player, and when to buy them?

Just checking, as people in here seem to think Wenger is making all these decisions. And you do realise that it's the board that keep saying there is money to spend, then not spending it? It's kinda their job to buy the players, you know?

I know i been saying it for the past few yrs that the board is also to blame because ultimately they have the money to spend whereas Wenger can only say look i want such and such player. Personally i think since David Dein left, thats where we have slowly gone backwards as he was the guy who made the deals for players and from what i know, Wenger is a very close friend of his. He was the guy who brought in Bergkamp, Henry, Petit and a few other world class players into Arsenal and those were the times we could win and compete for trophies.

But what makes it more ridiculous is Gazidis has come out and said that this summer we will make big signings, a few weeks back he said we could buy Rooney and pay him as well.
I dont get it, if we cant or havent got the means to buy these world class players then they should just come out and be straight to the fans about it rather than say a lot of crap for the sake of it.

It wouldnt surprise me if this year we dont make any big signings and next season the fans turn on Arsenal. This past season showed that majority of our fans are slowly starting to turn on Arsenal and wouldnt surprise me if we go and sell some of our best players because simply put, we cant compete for top honours.
 
People do realise the Manager doesn't have all the say in how much the club is willing to pay for a player, and when to buy them?

Just checking, as people in here seem to think Wenger is making all these decisions. And you do realise that it's the board that keep saying there is money to spend, then not spending it? It's kinda their job to buy the players, you know?

Wenger has been there for a very long time and will have a fair amount of input into who they buy. He can threaten to leave if they won't invest, he can say that he wants the budget spent on a centre forward. We don't think Wenger is making all these decisions but we are also not stupid enough to think that he doesn't play a large part in them.
 
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Thiago signed yet?

Latest is Barca have had Xavi have a word with him in an attempt to get him to stay (I have no idea how accurate this is). Graham Hunter was on talksport and reiterated that we've agreed to the clause he requested be put into his contract with us
 
Let's just see how the Higuain deal pans out before Arsenal fans start foaming at the mouth about Wenger's spending habits. :)

It's a very frustrating time to be an arsenal fan. Especially when we get told by everyone including the board we are prepared to spend big.

Early days but my F5 button has taken too much abuse for the past month
 
Its got wenger writen all over it. He is the issue at arsenal now.

I dont necessarily agree with that, hes only given what he can to spend on players. If the board doesnt give him say £30mill to spend on a player then sadly there isnt much Wenger can do in all honesty, all he can do is stamp his feet and say to the board i need this much money to sign this player.

I have a feeling that its the Arsenal board that is the real major issue, they dont like spending too much money on a player and Wenger has to do his best by buying players who are cheap on transfer fees and wages as well. Considering we keep qualifying for CL football every year, id say Wenger has done a pretty decent job so far. But really the board needs to get it through their skulls that world class players are not cheap to buy. If we really want to start winning trophies and keeping our best players then we need to stop being so stingy on transfer fees especially over a few million.
 
It's a very frustrating time to be an arsenal fan. Especially when we get told by everyone including the board we are prepared to spend big.

Early days but my F5 button has taken too much abuse for the past month

LOL its been fustrating being an Arsenal fan for the past few yrs especially moreso when we sell our best players nearly every yr and manage to qualify for CL by the skin of our teeth:p
 
I dont necessarily agree with that, hes only given what he can to spend on players. If the board doesnt give him say £30mill to spend on a player then sadly there isnt much Wenger can do in all honesty, all he can do is stamp his feet and say to the board i need this much money to sign this player.

I have a feeling that its the Arsenal board that is the real major issue, they dont like spending too much money on a player and Wenger has to do his best by buying players who are cheap on transfer fees and wages as well. Considering we keep qualifying for CL football every year, id say Wenger has done a pretty decent job so far. But really the board needs to get it through their skulls that world class players are not cheap to buy. If we really want to start winning trophies and keeping our best players then we need to stop being so stingy on transfer fees especially over a few million.

I do think its wenger but the board has some fault too. Did the board impose gerviho on him? Or renewing the contracts of other crappy players. Will it take another spanking at the start of the season for wenger to react?
 
By all accounts we are very close to signing Alvaro Negredo from Sevilla.

YouTube and his stats on paper make him out to be a very decent striker! :p 31 goals last year in a team that finished 9th isn't bad at all.

£17m is his release clause and apparently Pellegrini specifically requested him and we want him in early I assume so he can go to S.Africa for pre-season.
 
I dont necessarily agree with that, hes only given what he can to spend on players. If the board doesnt give him say £30mill to spend on a player then sadly there isnt much Wenger can do in all honesty, all he can do is stamp his feet and say to the board i need this much money to sign this player.

I have a feeling that its the Arsenal board that is the real major issue, they dont like spending too much money on a player and Wenger has to do his best by buying players who are cheap on transfer fees and wages as well. Considering we keep qualifying for CL football every year, id say Wenger has done a pretty decent job so far. But really the board needs to get it through their skulls that world class players are not cheap to buy. If we really want to start winning trophies and keeping our best players then we need to stop being so stingy on transfer fees especially over a few million.

Wenger chooses to keep this daft wage structure(that from what I can recall essentially no other club in the world runs in a similar way), Wenger chooses most of the players, we've got a stonkingly huge wage bill and we're making very little profit currently.

There is no reason to believe Wenger doesn't have the ultimate say in who we buy or how much we spend. Considering the board have publically stated how much we've had to spend and Wenger has never come close, if the board were lying for a decade Wenger, or someone else would have said so. When other boards stretch the truth and make the manager look bad, the manager is rarely quiet about it, the fact that Wenger hasn't once defended himself of blamed the board suggests that Wenger can choose to spend the money he's allocated however he likes.

AS for good players costing money, nope. People were getting 2million bargains 10 years ago while other clubs were spending 30-50million on players, and last year clubs were getting bargains at 2mil while other clubs were spending 30-50mil on players. Lets not forget the list of 20mil + purchases that have been complete flops and not worth the money, Nasri, Adebayor, Kaka, Torres, Kesman, and 38 other players at Chelsea, Coentrao, Marcelo, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. 25-30mil doesn't make certain of a top notch player, nor make certain a pretty damn good player won't go crap, adapt poorly, hit poor form. Its nonsense, the RIGHT players is the ONLY thing that matters, and with a ridiculously large number of players to choose from there are fantastic purchases every single season, in every single league, in every single price range.

There is ALWAYS a new cheap player who is excellent who hasn't established himself yet. Wenger issue is he used to buy excellent players of that type AND a few senior players and mix them well, today he's buying established not at all good enough players. We used to spend 10mil on a quality Gilberto type, today its 14mil on a Gervinho... someone who isn't very young and can plainly already be seen isn't good enough.

Wenger chose him, Wenger massively overspent on him, and Wenger gave him a long contract on a big wage that no one else is going to match and Gervinho isn't close to the first player Wenger has screwed up on lately.

The board has ZERO blame for Wenger's woeful choices, terrible management decisions from renewing contracts, putting faith in the wrong players, casting aside top notch players who end up leaving angrily(this started way back when with Pires who was a stunningly good player who was forced out by Wenger in favour of the utterly hopeless Hleb... we lost a player we had with us who won us titles, to favour a guy we spent 10mil on who was just awful). The board didn't force Hleb on us nor force Wenger to drop Pires and Reyes in favour of a hopeless player. The board didn't force Wenger to play an injury plagued Cesc against a physical Stoke the game before our first final in years.

You don't have to spend 30mil to get a good player, and Wenger has been peeing away money on crap players and their wages for years that could all have gone towards better players.

However the Higuain thing is just media horse crap, who knows why the deal hasn't finished, the fact that preseason is only just starting and most of the summer transfer business won't be done till late July through end of August, I have no idea why people are expecting instant fast business to be done.
 
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By all accounts we are very close to signing Alvaro Negredo from Sevilla.

YouTube and his stats on paper make him out to be a very decent striker! :p 31 goals last year in a team that finished 9th isn't bad at all.

£17m is his release clause and apparently Pellegrini specifically requested him and we want him in early I assume so he can go to S.Africa for pre-season.


We tried to buy him in January and his release clause isn't £17m.
 
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