For those that say BBC is unbiased

Freakbro · 4 Jul 2013 at 19:52

Gilly said:
Sorry, just can't let the title lie

Thank you, it's been annoying me too

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 20:16

groen said:
I often wonder if political ideology is a question during recruitment process. Makes sense though. Why would they hire pro-capitalists?

Half the folks at the BBC have also worked at Sky and vice versa. Every time these threads come up I say the same thing, and as far as I'm aware I'm the only person here who has worked in both organisations multiple times.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Last time I was at the BBC halfway through the project the exec sponsor left to go to Sky. He was replaced by someone recruited from Sky. Merry-go-round.

Freakbro · 4 Jul 2013 at 20:43

[DOD]Asprilla;24562191 said:
Half the folks at the BBC have also worked at Sky and vice versa. Every time these threads come up I say the same thing, and as far as I'm aware I'm the only person here who has worked in both organisations multiple times.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Last time I was at the BBC halfway through the project the exec sponsor left to go to Sky. He was replaced by someone recruited from Sky. Merry-go-round.

Pfft, you're obviously a state created propaganda bot, whose job it is to spread lies and deceit to undermine people wielding the sword of truth when they get too close.

anything I don't mind · 4 Jul 2013 at 20:52

elmarko said:
Who were you before the last ban?.

The BBC isn't far left.

I've yet to see huge BBC support for far reaching nationalisation, on increasing the taxes for the highest earners & corporation tax - advocating worker ownership & collectivism.

This "Far left" of what you speak is only "centre left social policy" - which is stated above is a result of them being higher educated than the average person in the UK.

If I was you I would wonder why the most intelligent people in society tend to be more left leaning politically on average - or why racism, stupidity & low IQ's have a strong correlation with right-wing social ideology (notice the distinction between social & economic, economic right wing supports have plenty of intelligent people within the ranks - social right wing is full of religious whack-jobs, bigots & idiots).

Economically the story's all have a right slant (as left wing economic policy isn't even on the table & hasn't been for some time).

I never said the bbc was far left, i said that bbc was leftist.

[DOD]Asprilla;24562191 said:
Half the folks at the BBC have also worked at Sky and vice versa. Every time these threads come up I say the same thing, and as far as I'm aware I'm the only person here who has worked in both organisations multiple times.

You couldn't be more wrong.

Last time I was at the BBC halfway through the project the exec sponsor left to go to Sky. He was replaced by someone recruited from Sky. Merry-go-round.

They obviously only hire the leftists from sky then. I don't see how that is goes contrary to my point. Just because they hire people that have worked in the private sector does not mean that the bbc does not consider individuals political ideology before they hire them.

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 21:19

groen said:
They obviously only hire the leftists from sky then. I don't see how that is goes contrary to my point. Just because they hire people that have worked in the private sector does not mean that the bbc does not consider individuals political ideology before they hire them.

Now you are just trolling.

AGD · 4 Jul 2013 at 21:26

Despite the alarmist OP, the report found:

'However, overall the breadth of opinion reflected by the BBC on this subject is broad and impressive, and no persuasive evidence was found that significant areas of opinion are not given due weight today'

Not really much of a story then. :/

The BBC are much less biased than practically all the other media in the UK.

Tunney · 4 Jul 2013 at 21:35

AGD said:
Despite the alarmist OP, the report found:

Not really much of a story then. :/

The BBC are much less biased than practically all the other media in the UK.

Page 5 and you're the first person to actually read the article.

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:00

Tunney said:
Page 5 and you're the first person to actually read the article.

4th post in quoted that.

anything I don't mind · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:23

Still waiting for someone to point out one rightist on the BBC. Was not a rhetorical question. Jeremy Clarkson? lol

ok forgot right left, just name one openly pro-capitalist on the bbc.

type in to google, "bbc capitalism"

First article:

BBC News - A Point of View: The revolution of capitalism
Sep 3, 2011 - Karl Marx may have been wrong about communism but he was right about much of capitalism, John Gray writes.

Need i say anymore of the left leaning BBC?

estebanrey · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:41

groen said:
Still waiting for someone to point out one rightist on the BBC.

Michael Portillo.

Xordium · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:45

groen said:
Need i say anymore of the left leaning BBC?

Well considering everytime I see a quiz to show political affiliation and belief thread on here and elsewhere most people seem to be slightly left with an even balance between the rights of the individual and the state then maybe they are representing the population.

Maybe not what you want but in case you hadn't noticed you tend to stand alone on a lot of views.

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:50

groen said:
Still waiting for someone to point out one rightist on the BBC. Was not a rhetorical question. Jeremy Clarkson? lol

ok forgot right left, just name one openly pro-capitalist on the BBC

Andrew Neil.

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 22:51

groen said:
type in to google, "bbc capitalism"

First article:

BBC News - A Point of View: The revolution of capitalism
Sep 3, 2011 - Karl Marx may have been wrong about communism but he was right about much of capitalism, John Gray writes.

Need i say anymore of the left leaning BBC?

Clearly Google are Marxists

anything I don't mind · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:03

estebanrey said:
Michael Portillo.

[DOD]Asprilla;24563007 said:
Andrew Neil.

They are both on "this week" definitely not openly pro capitalist on that program. lol. They might be members of the conservatives (well claim to be) but that does not mean that they are technically pro-capitalism, conservatives is still a party of the state.

Portillo even did the series Capitalism on Trial.

These guys play the part of the "fake bbc balance". :rolleyes:

Is that the best examples you got ?

Selekt0r · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:08

aln said:
Of course you would, you probably sit on the left like much of the nation and are thus happy to swallow what they're feeding you. Still if the BBC didn't exist, there'd be a gap in the market and someone would fill it. It's a shame that anyone who doesn't agree with them are forced to subsidise your opinions though.

Please don't make assumptions about my political views on the basis of one comment. You're wrong anyway, by the way...

Xordium · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:08

groen said:
Is that the best examples you got ?

How about you demonstrate they don't cater for a representation of the population first. Is this country that pro-capitalistic in the views of the population? I don't think it is.

[DOD]Asprilla · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:09

You are telling me that the former editor of The Sunday Times, founding chairman of Sky, writer for The Daily Mail, editor in chief of the Barclay brothers papers, and editor and chairman of The Spectator isn't right of centre and pro capitalism?

anything I don't mind · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:09

Xordium said:
How about you demonstrate they don't cater for a representation of the population first. Is this country that pro-capitalistic in the views of the population? I don't think it is.

Well we wouldn't know if it was because the BBC wouldn't tell us. Which is the whole point.

The bbc has certainly contributed to manipulating the population in the direction of anti-capitalism.

[DOD]Asprilla;24563101 said:
You are telling me that the former editor of The Sunday Times, founding chairman of Sky, writer for The Daily Mail, editor in chief of the Barclay brothers papers, and editor and chairman of The Spectator isn't right of centre and pro capitalism?

No the question was if anyone is openly pro capitalism on the bbc. While he may claim to be pro-capitalism the bbc wouldn't give him a chance and therefore he plays the part of the controlled "balanced bbc". Anyway he is a statist by heart and i wouldn't call him a rightist. Id call him a liberal that claims to like capitalism.

Xordium · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:13

groen said:
Well we wouldn't know if it was because the BBC wouldn't tell us. Which is the whole point.

The bbc has certainly contributed to manipulating the population in the direction of anti-capitalism.

So you can't.

So what you mean is the BBC does not promote the agenda you want. And that you are severely disappointed that they don't run weekly documentaries on Sarah Palin shooting animals and proclaiming the rights of the individual irrespective of the consequences.

anything I don't mind · 4 Jul 2013 at 23:18

Xordium said:
So you can't.

So what you mean is the BBC does not promote the agenda you want. And that you are severely disappointed that they don't run weekly documentaries on Sarah Palin shooting animals and proclaiming the rights of the individual irrespective of the consequences.

Sarah Palin? Don't know what that has got to do with the right or me or this discussion. But maybe that explains your misunderstanding of what the right realy is and we can probably thank the bbc for that. :rolleyes:

I would never expect a state media organisation to promote the agenda that i want. But the point is that the BBC claim to be unbias and balanced and so on. Which i am claiming that they are not. I am not expecting them to push a rightist view. I am just pointing out that they are leftist and very leftist at that and very bias in that regard.