760 VS 560

[Relentless81]

Hi,

I pulled the trigger on a Gigabyte 760 today after skipping a generation and to replace my 560 GTX Ti

I've only played Borderlands 2 so far and the difference is impressive, just waiting for the Steam sales now so I can get some more games to throw at it

Here are a couple of pictures of them next to each other for anyone that might be interested

 

[arc@css]

That's a very nice boost in performance (like what we used to see when an old series was replaced by the new one).

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/854?vs=858

 

[Relentless81]

Yes its great the FPS difference in Borderlands 2 awesome and I'm finally making proper use of my 120hz monitor, its interesting too because I paid exactly the same amount for the 560 when I first bought it, for the performance that you get with the 760 for the same money it was a no brainer

I cant help but wonder if my Phenom 965 @ 3.6 will be holding it back a bit though? I intend to build a new system but no idea what processor to get and will take me a few months to complete

 

[arc@css]

I cant help but wonder if my Phenom 965 @ 3.6 will be holding it back a bit though? I intend to build a new system but no idea what processor to get and will take me a few months to complete

MSI Afterburner will show the gpu usage in games. Report back what you consistently get in a few titles. With regards to the cpu, something like a 3570K or 4670K will be fine. If you think you will need the hyperthreading then maybe consider a 3770K or 4770K. If you're on a budget, then you could maybe consider second hand 2500K / 2600K / 2700K sandybridge cpus, which iirc are pretty much the same as the newer series bar very minor differences.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I cant help but wonder if my Phenom 965 @ 3.6 will be holding it back a bit though? I intend to build a new system but no idea what processor to get and will take me a few months to complete

You best bet would be a Intel i5 build and overclock it.

Roughly speaking the Phenom II X4 at 3.6GHz would typically deliver minimum 20fps, average 35-50fps, and max 70fps+ on the more recent demanding titles. Because of the low minimum frame rate, it wouldn't do your 120Hz monitor justice.

I got a 120Hz monitor as well, and I can tell you that although I only got a 5850, you really need a fast processor for pushing 120fps. On graphic side, you can always trade quality for performance, if people don't mind dropping graphic details to trade for higher frame rate; however when/if the limitation is with CPU, people can drop the graphic detail to rock bottom, and it still wouldn't make much difference/improvement to the frame rate.

 

[Relentless81]

MSI Afterburner will show the gpu usage in games. Report back what you consistently get in a few titles. With regards to the cpu, something like a 3570K or 4670K will be fine. If you think you will need the hyperthreading then maybe consider a 3770K or 4770K. If you're on a budget, then you could maybe consider second hand 2500K / 2600K / 2700K sandybridge cpus, which iirc are pretty much the same as the newer series bar very minor differences.

What would justify Hyperthreading? I've noticed a few trends recently whilst reading up, I7 processors and AMD don't seem to be getting much of a mention in regards to gaming builds, any reason?

I want to make sure my next PC is better in terms of performance than the next generation of consoles as I'm paying more for the PC than I would the console so that's my main aim right now

You best bet would be a Intel i5 build and overclock it.

Roughly speaking the Phenom II X4 at 3.6GHz would typically deliver minimum 20fps, average 35-50fps, and max 70fps+ on the more recent demanding titles. Because of the low minimum frame rate, it wouldn't do your 120Hz monitor justice.

I got a 120Hz monitor as well, and I can tell you that although I only got a 5850, you really need a fast processor for pushing 120fps. On graphic side, you can always trade quality for performance, if people don't mind dropping graphic details to trade for higher frame rate; however when/if the limitation is with CPU, people can drop the graphic detail to rock bottom, and it still wouldn't make much difference/improvement to the frame rate.

I'm not a huge fan of overclocking unless its as easy as notching up the multiplier like I did on my Phenom, I prefer out of the box performance where possible unless it starts to get a bit too pricey and I do prefer a trade off of decent FPS and eye candy but of course its all down to money otherwise I would have bought a 780 instead of a 760

If it makes any sense I'd like the motherboard and processor to match the GPU, upper mid range and relatively new to the market and ensuring it will take advantage of a 1080 - 120hz monitor (This doesn't mean it has to be 120 all the time, above 70/80 is nice)

 

[imginy]

Yes its great the FPS difference in Borderlands 2 awesome and I'm finally making proper use of my 120hz monitor, its interesting too because I paid exactly the same amount for the 560 when I first bought it, for the performance that you get with the 760 for the same money it was a no brainer

I cant help but wonder if my Phenom 965 @ 3.6 will be holding it back a bit though? I intend to build a new system but no idea what processor to get and will take me a few months to complete

Borderlands 2 uses a lot of CPU mine was massively better going from a 4ghz 960t to a stock 3570k especially multiplayer.

benchmarks here and looking at this you could get at least an extra 10 fps by switching to a 2500k in single player but I can tell you from personal experience it's a lot more than that in 4 player coop.
http://www.techspot.com/review/577-borderlands-2-performance/page6.html

If you can afford an i7 rig I would go for it but if not i5's are still great for gaming.

Phenom 965 will be holding you back a lot and game play would be much smoother on newer processor.

 

[Relentless81]

Thanks for that, I've got some serious reading up to do on justifying an i7 over an i5

 

[Shaftydude]

i5 for gaming and i7 for programs that take advantage of the more cores.

 

[murah]

but the bluuuue pcb!!!!