Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani
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I know what I said. I then had to draw your attention to it again, and then you quote it? I am confused.
As I said, last season I said he played well, that's nothing to do with goals.NokkonWud said:
I don't think you can say bigger club at the moment. You could possibly argue better in terms of recent league placing but bigger is so much more than that. Fanbase, history, league positions, value of squad, revenue streams, ground... it all comes into it when you are talking about the size of club.
In general they are of a similar stature. The league placings being really the big differentiator recently.
It will be interesting where Everton finish in the next two or three seasons now the main man has moved onto pastures new.
In general they are of a similar stature. The league placings being really the big differentiator recently.
It will be interesting where Everton finish in the next two or three seasons now the main man has moved onto pastures new.
It was your opening gambit to justify his signing, as opposed to performance based.
Don't worry Karl.
And I can't even see that being as big next season. I can see Everton dropping down a bit to adjust to the new manager and I can see Villa going up the table. I just hope Everton don't do what Villa did when O'Neil left as I've always quite liked Everton and Martinez
.Additionally, Everton have, in the main, retained their best players over the past couple of seasons - Jagielka, Fellaini, Baines - should a couple of these depart, it will be interesting to see how they evolve.
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I take it there's no new transfer gossip today?
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Erm, how about because Everton are a much better club than Villa, with far superior aspirations? Ignore the history that you've won a European Cup (as going by history, Everton are bigger than Man City), over the past few years, Villa have been rubbish, while Everton have consistently been battling for European spots.
So yeah, that's why he'd join Everton.
And you really think Everton are going to remain consistent after their super glue for the last 10 years has left? Doubt it.
a) have they won any domestic silverware in the past decade?
b) are they playing Champions League football next season?
He's therefore no more likely to win a trophy, and play in no greater competitions by moving to Everton - we all know the Europa League is bobbins.
If by "far superior" aspirations you mean qualifying the Europa League, then yes, this is all they can achieve, especially now their talismantic manager has gone (who's won nothing), and their best players are likely to follow.
As a consequence, Villa's aspirations of mid table, is not far dissimilar to that of Everton, who are aiming for 6th.
Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea all have "far superior" aspirations, as do Spurs, but Everton? no, I don't think so.
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We'll have to wait and see on that won't we?
By far superior aspirations, I mean that Everton start the season looking to qualify for Europe if they can. Villa start the season looking to avoid relegation. That's a huge difference in aspirations, and if you think it's not then you're deluding yourself (which I think you already are going from some of your other posts).
Benteke is a good player who had a great season. Would any of the big 4 want him? No, they probably wouldn't. Would the teams around that area (in the top 6) want him, teams like Spurs and Everton? Yes, most probably. Everton might feel with Benteke that they'll be able to break through and into a European spot. Villa probably feel if they hold onto him, they can retain their Premier League status. Again, a very big difference.
Our aspirations will be to improve on last season's disappointing 15th, so mid-table is the aim, as the gap in points isn't vast.
Everton's will be a top half finish 6th to 10th, bearing in mind the departure of Moyes, a new manager who has new ideas, dealing with the (potential) loss of Baines and Fellaini.
Not poles apart by any stretch of the imagination.
Everton's will be a top half finish 6th to 10th, bearing in mind the departure of Moyes, a new manager who has new ideas, dealing with the (potential) loss of Baines and Fellaini.
Not poles apart by any stretch of the imagination.
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I'm fairly sure that Martinez will actually be aiming higher than 6th, though whether he gets it is of course another matter. Considering the way Villa played at times last year, I'm sure their first goal is 40 points and safety.
HAHA - higher than 6th!
Well if anyone knows about 40 points and safety....it's Martinez.....hang on.....
I've never justified his signing. We did overpay and never needed him, he has however gotten far more grief than is necessary. He had 6 alright performances and 1 shocker against Crawley, where both him and Obertan put in the two worst performances I've seen in a United shirt.
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Yes, he'll be aiming higher than 6th. Do you think he joined a club like Everton, with the players we have, and the league finishes we've had, and thought "I know, I'll just be happy to keep them in the top half"? Are you really that deluded?
Actually, don't answer that. I already know the answer.
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