Just got a new 1.6D Civic

Yeah definitely get some better pictures taken with a higher quality camera and the car centre shot. Really black the tyres up too if you don't wish to swap the wheels out before sale too. :)
 
At least get some spangly new centre caps where the badges are fresh and not corroding!

The devil, as they say, is in the details. Give it a proper polishing and waxing too!
 
Certainly a lot better than my new company astra which is almost as shocking as the old one, 48MPG so far over the first 3k miles!
 
I wouldnt want to do 150 miles a day in a 7 year old 335i either so I can see why the desire to change.

That said if you do 150 miles a day commuting then you've massively under-stated your mileage when chosing the lease and you'll be hit with considerable excess mileage charges.
 
[TW]Fox;24590364 said:
I wouldnt want to do 150 miles a day in a 7 year old 335i either so I can see why the desire to change.

That said if you do 150 miles a day commuting then you've massively under-stated your mileage when chosing the lease and you'll be hit with considerable excess mileage charges.
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Thanks, yeah it was really doing the 335i no favours.

The centre hubs in the wheels are actually brand new, not BMW ones, just the rubbish photo's - Point taken, get some good pics :)

Actual mileage is 140 a day for 4 days a week (I stay over one night). I also have the option of changing the mileage (at a cost) to reflect the expected due to the contract work I do and changing contracts. I expect not to do as much mileage for the whole 3 years, so fingers crossed it will work out.

Now to persuade the missus to give the 335 a good clean this week whilst I earn :) Then I can tidy up the points and get some proper photos done and get that darn advert looking nice rather than rushing it.
 
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Catanonia said:
oh get a grip, there are many other factors why i am changing car that you are oblivious to in your little perfect world.
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Lol :D

Here are a few

£246 saving in fuel costs per month (your calcs) That alone is nearly 70% of the lease.
Road Tax £0 compared to £490
Insurance, trust me there is a big difference
Ongoing maintenance, new vs 7 year old aging high mileage performace car
Resale costs vs mileage
Personal circumstances
Money I get back from selling the 335i, hopefully between 9 and 10k

The 335i was great when I had a company fuel car - Personal Circumstances.


Sometime I wish people would step away from the keyboard and realise they are not the centre of the world
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I hate the cost of VED as much as anyone for high performance cars, but doing 25k miles/yr isn't a use-case where it matters much - it's only equivalent to around 7% of your monthly outgoings from the lease plus fuel, before any maintenance costs come into play e.g. tyres, brakes. The same surely applies to the insurance difference.
I can appreciate that it can hurt to appear to be flushing large sums of money down the toilet at the pumps and 25k/yr is a good a time as any to get something with better fuel economy, it's just that leasing a brand new diesel civic isn't normally the way one would opt to save money, simply because almost all your fuel savings are going on depreciation.

I'm sure the Civic will be the cheaper option long-term, I just don't think it'll be anywhere near as much cheaper as you hope - not for the first few years at least - which is why I'm 'being objectionable'.
Anyway, in all seriousness, enjoy it! :)
 
miniyazz said:
Lol :D



I hate the cost of VED as much as anyone for high performance cars, but doing 25k miles/yr isn't a use-case where it matters much - it's only equivalent to around 7% of your monthly outgoings from the lease plus fuel, before any maintenance costs come into play e.g. tyres, brakes. The same surely applies to the insurance difference.
I can appreciate that it can hurt to appear to be flushing large sums of money down the toilet at the pumps and 25k/yr is a good a time as any to get something with better fuel economy, it's just that leasing a brand new diesel civic isn't normally the way one would opt to save money, simply because almost all your fuel savings are going on depreciation.

I'm sure the Civic will be the cheaper option long-term, I just don't think it'll be anywhere near as much cheaper as you hope - not for the first few years at least - which is why I'm 'being objectionable'.
Anyway, in all seriousness, enjoy it! :)
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Respect mate on taking my comments as intended :)

I get the depreciation (not that I will own the car ever). I am throwing away £362 a year on a car I will never own, the car is a tool of the trade to get me to work just like a train fare is to others. Lease cost - fuel savings works out around £80 a month for hopefully trouble free high mileage motoring in a brand new top of the range car without the fear of the next bill around the corner. Ok I loss the thrill factor :(

The main concern for me was piling on such high mileage on a 7 year old 335i. When things go wrong, they cost. Boots are £350+ a corner the cheapest I can find. Fuel pump was £700 replaced etc.

As much as I don't want to sell it, economic and the old man syndrome in my (now 40 and a Honda :() say it must go.

That said, it is still sat on the drive 1 month on and the desire to sell it, mmmmm, I could actually keep it if I wanted to. But all that said best to sell it at 9 - 10k and let someone else enjoy it before I add another 30k on it and it is worthless.

It isn't just the fuel that is the determining factor here, it is everything combined.

The joys of being a contractor and having to pay for my own fuel now :( I spent my whole working life (20+ years) filling my performance cars on company cards and the last time I think (no real idea) it was still priced in gallons :)
 
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[TW]Fox;24590552 said:
What?! No.
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19inch 255/35 rear 235/30 fronts Run Flats. Low profile. Swapping wheels out will work out very expensive and isn't really an option unless I got really lucky on the bay. Even then the savings on boots is not that much, perhaps £100 per corner if I went 18 inch normal profile which would not suit the car IMHO

Can you find better than £350 a corner for a decent brand ? Was a bane of my life, even had a mobile van out once as he had a good price on offer and who after 1 hour admitted defeat as he could not get the new fronts on. 1st time in 15 years he had failed LOL :)

And they only lasted 15k miles. (Loud pedal :D)

Not cheap
 
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19inch 255/35 rear 235/30 fronts Run Flats. Low profile.
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Thats not the correct size for a start - they are 255/35/19 rear and 225/35/19 front.


Can you find better than £350 a corner for a decent brand ?
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Of course. If you are desperate to keep the RFT's - and no idea why you would be as they destroy the ride and handling - Lovetyres have rear Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 RFT's for £226 each inc VAT. They have the same tyre for the front at £206.99. Add £60 for fitting and it comes to £926 or an average of £231 fitted, each.

But you'd improve the way the car drives by ridding it of runflats - this takes the fronts down to £135 inc for F1 A2, and the rears to £177 inc for the same tyre. Add the same £60 for fitting and we are at £684 or an average of £171 each. Half the quoted price :)
 
[TW]Fox;24590639 said:
Thats not the correct size for a start - they are 255/35/19 rear and 225/35/19 front.




Of course. If you are desperate to keep the RFT's - and no idea why you would be as they destroy the ride and handling - Lovetyres have rear Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 2 RFT's for £226 each inc VAT. They have the same tyre for the front at £206.99. Add £60 for fitting and it comes to £926 or an average of £231 fitted, each.

But you'd improve the way the car drives by ridding it of runflats - this takes the fronts down to £135 inc for F1 A2, and the rears to £177 inc for the same tyre. Add the same £60 for fitting and we are at £684 or an average of £171 each. Half the quoted price :)
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Not sure about the fronts, 225 sounds familiar, but they are 30 profile on it that I know.

Good to know, I could never find them prices anywhere.

Thanks
 
Update :

2 weeks in and average MPG of 68 mpg

This is for a round trip on the M6 - M55 from Sandbach to Blackpool daily. About 15 miles of built up and the rest motorway = 150 total.

It fluctuates between 65 - 68 MPG with cruise control and air con @ 80MPH

If I drop to 70 - 75 MPH and switch off aircon then it goes up to 71 - 74 MPG


Not too shabby.
 
alexthecheese said:
Impressive. I don't actually like the look of them much, not bad, but they appeal on a technical level.
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Back end is pig ugly, give you that and i am not sure if it will grow on me.

Inside is really nicely specced and very confortable, well the EX leather version is.

Been testing a bit more, nice speed seems to be 75mph during rush traffic on M6, keeps pace and basically you can't really go much faster without braking all of the time and it gives me 68 - 74 dependent upon traffic door to door :)

Well chuffed with that.

The DAB Radio was a nice surprise too when I got it :)
 
alexthecheese said:
If you granny drive at 60mph average, what does it do then? Must be touching or even into 80's?
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Dealers kept telling me whilst negotiating deals and leases of reports of people "doing motorway speed" take that as you want and reporting 80+ mph.

TBH, no way am I going to try that, but backroads leading to the motorway, with careful steady driving, I regulary hit high 70's before lowering it on the motorway with speed.
 
Fantastic choice of car ;)
I've got the exact same, Milano red EX with Dynamic pack.

Can echo the exact same things as you've said, mines a NHS lease car and is saving me a great deal compared to running my own car and claiming business miles.

I'm 1.5 months in now and got 3000 miles on the clock, over the life of the car averaging 65mpg. Like you said more can be done but seems this is the sweet spot for daily driving. Without realising once I had it av. 98mpg then a great incline came and ruined it!
Enjoy the car mate
 
kip02 said:
Fantastic choice of car ;)
I've got the exact same, Milano red EX with Dynamic pack.

Can echo the exact same things as you've said, mines a NHS lease car and is saving me a great deal compared to running my own car and claiming business miles.

I'm 1.5 months in now and got 3000 miles on the clock, over the life of the car averaging 65mpg. Like you said more can be done but seems this is the sweet spot for daily driving. Without realising once I had it av. 98mpg then a great incline came and ruined it!
Enjoy the car mate
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how much is your lease including NHS discounts ?

I shopped everywhere and got mine for 25k a year for £362 obviously brand new.

Purely on tax, insurance and fuel difference per month actually pays for it compared to the 335i I am now selling.
 
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