Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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shipinabottle said:
You're blind.
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Or Spurs another midfield who they didn't need
Chelsea more bench warmers
and City, a winger who's spent his entire career at mid table Spanish sides and a midfielder who again was hardly a priority

Tell me how is the above any different to us signing yet another defender for example?

Spurs (who again I shouldn't even be mentioning) needed a striker and thus far they haven't got one
Chelsea needed a striker and thus far haven't got one
City needed a striker and thus far haven't got one

And what makes the above even more enjoyable is that with Falcao moved to Monaco & Cavani all but moved to PSG any strikers Chelsea or City do get now are just going to be second rate ones hardly improving on what they already have.
 
Bucket said:
To be fair to Moyes, I don't think that he can be be attributed to all signings that may or may not happen in this window, so if things do fall through I wouldn't lay it at his door so much.

Fergie & Gill had been saying for several months there were 2 or 3 players that we were advanced with, it's not too far fetched that a lot of the people we may be after are from the previous management.

Of course, he's going to have a say etc etc, but I'm sure we've been working on transfers for more than just the period of time since he's been in the job.
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Moyes doesnt strike me to be in position to say, we need to go buy player x y or z right now.

The board are more likely to turn around and say, dave, you're lucky you got the job mate'. They seemed to want a line to er and they appear to have chosen one wisely.

Pep would be all like; ya buy this player and this player and apparently bayern will facilitate.
 
ONESHOTKILL said:
could be a way to get him back in the country so he can have a medical with chelsea :o
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Obviously what's happening, personally I'm looking forward to the midtable mediocrity many on here have us destined for, at least then if it does happen they'd be right for once ;)
 
The Running Man said:
Moyes doesnt strike me to be in position to say, we need to go buy player x y or z right now.

The board are more likely to turn around and say, dave, you're lucky you got the job mate'. They seemed to want a line to er and they appear to have chosen one wisely.

Pep would be all like; ya buy this player and this player and apparently bayern will facilitate.
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i think fergie would have had targets already in mind before he retired but i would like to think that moyes has been giving a certain amount of funds and has been told to strengthen the team in the areas he believes need strengthened.Has moyes brung in his own scouting team ect aswell?
 
Robbo said:
I wondered myself if it could be transfer related.
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Wouldnt be surprised if this is a smokescreen of sorts ie maybe he had a falling out with Moyes and said look i want out now so sell me.

Guess only time will tell if he really is injured or hes been put out to pasture so to speak.
 
ONESHOTKILL said:
i think fergie would have had targets already in mind before he retired but i would like to think that moyes has been giving a certain amount of funds and has been told to strengthen the team in the areas he believes need strengthened.Has moyes brung in his own scouting team ect aswell?
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BRUNG??!!?? BRUNG??!!!??

:p:D

jus teasing mate:p
 
ONESHOTKILL said:
i think fergie would have had targets already in mind before he retired but i would like to think that moyes has been giving a certain amount of funds and has been told to strengthen the team in the areas he believes need strengthened.Has moyes brung in his own scouting team ect aswell?
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Maybe he has funds, but he has no backing and no balls.

When UTD offered him the job he was hardly able to dictate his own terms, it wasn't as though any of europes other top clubs were looking at Moyes to bring in at Monaco, PSG, Barca, Bayern etc. and rightly so.

Instead they probably said, come in do some pre season trip to moneyasia, we'll buy you a few players and btw you cant sell rooney.

Any self respecting manager who had already sold rooney once, then sued rooney, and then watched rooney hand in 2 transfer requests (in effect) would have shot him out to the next available foreign club and bought Falcao or someone.

No chance.
 
I don't know if you can call someone who bought Phil Neville, Timmeh, and that Gibson in as being anywhere near astute at transfers.

Plus to be fair to fergie, unless the player you buy is amazeballs, well people are going to criticise very quicky. At everton you can buy a few duffers and you know what, you were expecting them to lose that week anyway so it hardly makes any difference whether Jelavic does it one week but not the next.
 
i just think moyes had allot harder time buying players and for what money he spent he did good job building a team and thats prob why united wanted him.Fergie has bought some crap players over the years.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I would take that as they had already arranged a fee with Arsenal and Bendtner demanded more money, but you're so anti-Wenger I'm sure you'll see it whichever way you like. Sky are also going with wage demands being the reason the deal wasn't completed, as opposed to high transfer fees demanded by Wenger.



Do you think their sporting director would have personally thanked Arsene if he was the reason the deal fell through?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/...rt-end-interest-in-Arsenal-s-Nicklas-Bendtner
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As we've seen multiple times discussion of wages before transfer fee's USUALLY happens, sometimes officially and allowed, sometimes unofficially.

Secondly, having no problem with Arsenal doesn't mean you can't disagree on the fee. IE Arsenal could say yeah, have him on a free, then two weeks later demand 10mil, that would be arsey. You could say, he'll cost 8mil.... they think they can swing it, they talk terms, and it turns out they can't afford 8mil, or Arsenal were thinking upfront and they were thinking installments or something. You can not have an issue and disagree on a fee without hating the other person.

As said, Bendtner's not leaving for 3 years has been because Arsenal have asked for too much money, and Chamakh and multiple other players, wages are often a stumbling block but Chamakh was on 80k a week, Bendtner 50k a week and he's a much better player, Gervinho will be on 60-65k a week or more by now. Bendtner is the least overpaid(if at all) of all our players because Wenger never gave him a run in the team unlike Denilson, Gervinho, Diaby, etc, etc.

Secondly, even if they did have a problem with Wenger, they wouldn't say so and might go out of their way to say they didn't... because business is business, simple as that. They may want an Arsenal player next year, they may still want Bendtner, they may want to sell Arsenal a player next year, you don't burn bridges unnecessarily.

Now lets go with the multiple stories that accuse Bendtner of wanting too much money... which don't go into as much detail as you quoted. Yet what you did quote is that Bendtner was willing to accept a pay cut......... and to a specific figure which he plucked out of his arse.. or that they offered? Also from all indications he is NOT on 80k euro's a week... so most of it seems like bull.

WE've got websites without quote using "we have no problem with Arsenal" to mean "bendtner thinks he's better than he is and wants too much money".... with zero proof. Yet MULTIPLE players and transfers and multiple teams that have said Arsenal want too much. Denilson's Brazillian club said Arsenal wanted too much on multiple occassions, so did the club Santos went to, and a couple greek clubs that have offered for Santos. We supposedly had a 4-5mil offer for Santos and turned it down in Jan because Wenger wanted more.

I'm basing my assumption that Wenger was asking too much on multiple sources, reading and logic. Your own quote says Bendtner was happy to take a pay cut, and the deal didn't work out financially...... yet they gave Bendtner a wage figure and he accepted it..... but its Bendtner's fault, not the other part of the deal.... sure.
 
Do people genuinely believe that United are just not bothering to try and sign top players any more. You can't sign a player that:

a) doesn't want to be signed
b) whose club doesn't want to sell
c) who are waiting for more money
d) don't want to sell to you
e) its a thursday

My point is that when United buy a player, they are only a tiny part of what is required to push a deal through. Why are people saying that we should have done X, Y, Z and signed player X when I would be amazed if we were not just knocked back.
 
drunkenmaster said:
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I wish I could make something that takes four sentences last about 12 paragraphs like you do, but I lack the skill so I'm just going to ask again why Frankfurt's sporting director would personally thank Wenger regarding the negotiations if he was being a little bitch and trying to squeeze out another million or two?
 
Tom84 said:
Or Spurs another midfield who they didn't need

Spurs (who again I shouldn't even be mentioning) needed a striker and thus far they haven't got one
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Behave you've only known the ''ferguson era'' yet you're still confident that united will be in the pl title challenge now he's gone. maybe so but you should be worried, i'm sure a lot of other united fans are.

spurs did need another midfielder and it's clear we're after a striker.

let's all mention spurs in the same sentence as city, chelsea and united. compare the amount of cash spent and i'd say they deserve a shout. last seasons fixture results would echo that too.
 
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