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More people are starting to see the light mate, hence why UKIP got a surge of support.
Benefits to be a human right?
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More people are starting to see the light mate, hence why UKIP got a surge of support.
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Yes jackboots boy, but I think you will find if we leave the EU, and use our own supreme court, they too would find posting a random citizen age of 25 as somewhat odd, given that society is progressing towards a voting age of 16 rather than 18.
What will you do for the low IQ people you mentioned before? Let them starve until they are 25? Then feed the survivors?
As you've removed their ability to work in pound land and similar, but no benefits until 25.
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More people are starting to see the light mate, hence why UKIP got a surge of support.
Quite possibly, but the thing is, we didn't have to sign up to the EU human rights charter, we simply had to have one in place. Blair signed away our rights to have our own by signing up.
We can leave that part of the EU, and have our own supreme court govern such matters if we revoke that part of the treaty we signed.
It doesn't need to stop everything else.
We would still need to apply the same laws to EU citizens as to our own.
The only way to stop that would be the complete departure from the EU.
Something we will have a referendum upon (eventually).
Benefits as human right, is complete gubbins, headline grabbing gubbins, a waste of time effort and money. Our system need adapted and changed, not added to.
I just said they would be given the choice to either work as some of them currently do or they could use the land given to them to generate income.They could have state assistance so low IQ people could have help to manage thier finances and thier allocated plot of land.
Your lololol reaction,insult to my country and calling me a right wing fasicst is just absurd and shows that you cannot even grasp my concept.Yet you are more than willing to dish out criticism and deny it outright when you cannot even understand the basics.No doubt you voted Tory last election then!
I think its lolololol @ you mate.
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My country too.
What I have said is accurate.
For generations here people of both sides bred within their communities, with little external influence, in the past 15 years that has changed greatly, there is a massive influx and departure of genetics now.
It can only be good for our society.
What I have said is accurate.
For generations here people of both sides bred within their communities, with little external influence, in the past 15 years that has changed greatly, there is a massive influx and departure of genetics now.
It can only be good for our society.
Thats not even part of the discusssion or topic so what are you babbling about? What you said is a load of nonsense that is not even relevant and i slapped you down on everything you accused me off and pretty much made you look stupid.
When i did the political landscape survey on here, i was more left wing than Gandhi for god sake.And you had the nerve to call me a jackboot fascist.If you really do live in Northern Ireland which i very much doubt then take a drive around the country and look how many empty fields there is and how few livestock and humans there are in the country.
We have vast swathes of farming land sitting empty yet old ladies are commiting suicide due to the bedroom tax.All while Iain duncan Smith says he thinks the changes are "positive" and "working"
When i did the political landscape survey on here, i was more left wing than Gandhi for god sake.And you had the nerve to call me a jackboot fascist.If you really do live in Northern Ireland which i very much doubt then take a drive around the country and look how many empty fields there is and how few livestock and humans there are in the country.
We have vast swathes of farming land sitting empty yet old ladies are commiting suicide due to the bedroom tax.All while Iain duncan Smith says he thinks the changes are "positive" and "working"
you can be economically left wing and socially authoritarian at the same time. in fact, left wing economics is best described as fiscal authoritarianism, as evidenced by your position that the state should decide who gets property irrespective of current ownership.
Why are old ladies committing suicide due to the "bedroom tax" when it hasn't been introduced in Northern Ireland?
Im not though.as i said i was more left than Gandhi and i was not alone either.I think there was a group of us who were going to have a lads night out with Gandhi in the afterlife
I dont see the point of your post though? just like this oneApart from that i have not seen you post anything intelligent or of value as you put it.And Human rights apply to all yes but when people come into your country to take the resources your ancestors left for you human rights have to sometimes be put into perspective.They would have had thier own country and resources its not our fault if they lack the courage to change thier own countrys and how things work.Jumping ship in to someone elses Country and demanding the same rights as them is just wrong.What if my house was not as big as yours as my parents never bothered to build an extension like yours? Is it my human right to move in with you in your better house then?
You have basically said it is ok so dolph what is your address im coming to move in with you and if you dont like it tough.Its my human right and i will sue you in a EU court if you refuse
It will be soon.It takes time for reforms to be approved through stormont.And as things stand the bill will go through and people will have to pay the bedroom tax.
Next please!
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Please expand on this?
How do I avoid paying for benefits in my taxation?
Are there many uncut fields where you live?
Lad that has animals upon is for grazing, other land is cut, and the grass kept to feed animals during the winter.
I think you will find we export very little of our animal feed produce, the land is necessary to maintain the level of farming we have.
Also it is Northern Ireland's planning policy which stops it being built upon, developers would be delighted to start building in the middle of nowhere on pristine land, but the policy prevents this, with regards services and access. Its why we have green and brown belts and areas set for specific development.
Who would you take the land from? Would you pay them for the land you are taking? How would you reconcile it against people who have worked hard all their lives to buy land, would you take theirs also?
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But it isn't, so I am going to assume that your "old ladies committing suicide" comment was pure emotional hyperbole?
So far your argument seems to be that benefits should be a human right, but not actually a human right as you don't want it to be available to all humans. In support of such you are pointing out non-existent old ladies committing suicide next to swathes of unused fields in Northern Ireland.
Seems a touch weak...
We need a two-child policy of some sort some time soon, this 1.5 child business is reckless and dangerous for the future society.
This is of course globally, but it really matters mostly for the West due to the nature of the 1.5 child.
This is of course globally, but it really matters mostly for the West due to the nature of the 1.5 child.
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Im not though.as i said i was more left than Gandhi and i was not alone either.I think there was a group of us who were going to have a lads night out with Gandhi in the afterlife
I dont see the point of your post though? just like this one
At the very least, your position in this thread is not consistent with the beliefs stated elsewhere. you have also advocated that the state should give people property in the form of land, then highlighted that you see land all around which is already owned by others that could be used.
A human right is a human right, it applies to everyone. I do support the idea of making a minimum standard of living a human right, along with full property protection to create competing rights and ensure fair and equal treatment for all. You seem to want to make a sub category of human rights that only apply to some people, they are not human rights. You also appear to be confusing immigration with human rights. immigration applies to whether someone can come here in the first place, not what human rights apply once they are here. I don't propose a human right to immigrate.
How would you enforce such a policy?
Licence to breed. Everyone is forcibly sterilised at birth. You then earn the right to have children by being a good citizen ie some sort of national service to benefit society, demonstrating financial security, proven lack of genetic abnormality, etc. Quite simple.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/fears-more-suicides-over-bedroom-4325718
Please do some research on it before calling me a liar.And for the record im all for human rights for all but those rights should only extend to your own country.By coming to another country and using your human rights as they stand you take away those rights from someone native due to competition over resources etc.
Imagine a well in Devon used by the locals for water.Everyone has access to it and they base thier population policy around how many people that well can support.Everyone has a human right to the well.Now add in a bunch of foreign people whose own country has privitised the well and sells it as bottled water.They have to move to devon and start using up the water.Eventually the water runs out and a huge fight ensues over who should have access to the well.All im saying is they should have stayed and fought for thier water rights in thier own country without coming and taking up resources in Devon.
I just dont think the system is fair and its going to cause huge conflict in the future as populations soar.which is another good point as how come most of the immigration is from large family's? More decent British people know that having 5 kids is just not sustainable and puts everyone at risk.Its incredibly selfish that certain countrys have huge birth rates and then start emigrating when the resources start to run out.It simply causes the same thing to happen in another country.And once those resources run out they will again emigrate to somewhere else and so on and so on.Its a bad and dangerous situation unless something is changed.
They are linked and you will see this in the future.Right now how can you separate immigration and human rights where benefits are concerned? You just stated that everyone should have human rights and not just one sub group.So i take it you are happy to share your childrens resources then? After all it would be racist if you did not right?
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I may be wrong but StriderX seems to be suggesting the opposite and rather than a breeding licence system to restrict births instead a breeding policy to raise the birthrate to 2.0 average rather than the current sub 2 average.
Aside from the fact hippies make more sense than your rants...
Fraccing. Besides the fact oil and gas profits are taxed at a substantially higher rate than other industries (and oil and gas companies actually pay their taxes, unlike a myriad of other large companies), fraccing in particular is going to be especially beneficial to the community, with the government stating those in the local area will not only get discounts on their fuel bills but a percentage of the revenue from the fracced gas, as well as a lump sum for every well drilled.
As for mining... Aside from gold and hydrocarbons all minerals are owned by the landowner (to the centre of the earth). There are plenty of people that get very rich just by allowing companies to have the option to mine on their land, let alone actually allow companies to extract the resources beneath their land.
As for the general premice of the post I agree, to an extent. I font like the fact all land is owned by people and in most places you can't just go out and do what you want (like fish in a river, or even kayak up it) - some national park areas and some of Scotland excepted, although even there you can't just hunt without permission. That is mostly down to the number of people in the country though rather than greedy rich people.