Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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Lawro is annoying but nowt wrong with Hansen imo.Savage is a bit of a **** but he is entertaining.

Bt have better commentators with Owen? LOL.
 
Robi said:
Please explain why he is in a weak position? If we publicly announce that Rooney is for sale, his value drops dramatically - are you too stupid to see that?

Instead, he's increasing Rooney's sale value at the same time as confirming outright that we are chasing one of the best midfielders in the world - HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THIS?!
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Firstly competition. None of Europe's top clubs had offered him a job. This year or last year. We didn't have to fight to persuade moyes. It was Everton forever and then villa... or utd.

Secondly and this is linked to point 1, he didn't match the job spec. Big cup experience? Virtually zero. Sucess at a high level, none whatsoever. So what United said about an experienced manager with experience in big European fixtures was not met.

There was no decision for moyes to make. It was like the gifting of a job to someone under qualified. And not to mention he has not even been in the same ball park.

But that shouldn't preclude him from having an opinion on welbeck a player he must have seen play many times.

And no he wasn't targeting cavani whist at Everton so was unlikely to have any dossiers on him which is another reason you don't want a lower league manager taking on a top job because he doesn't know who he should be signing.
 
I just think the majority of 'experts' and pundits that football shows have are very poor, with the exception of Neville and Carragher.

I think that analysis and punditry should be there to educate people that watch about football, from an expert point of view. I'm not sure everyone will agree with me on that, but the anchor should be there to bring a bit of light heartedness to the show.

What's wrong with keeping Gazza Lineker or bringing in AC Jimbo along side someone like Jonathan Wilson, Michael Cox and a random (intelligent) ex player or a good quality journalist or two from a paper.

Back to transfers :p.
 
The Running Man said:
And no he wasn't targeting cavani whist at Everton so was unlikely to have any dossiers on him which is another reason you don't want a lower league manager taking on a top job because he doesn't know who he should be signing.
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You do realise that clubs have souting networks, there would be dossiers on pretty much every player of note availabe to Moyes when he took over
 
Tummy said:
I think that analysis and punditry should be there to educate people that watch about football, from an expert point of view. I'm not sure everyone will agree with me on that, but the anchor should be there to bring a bit of light heartedness to the show.
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Totally agree, the trouble with the MoTD Analysis and Punditry is that quite often a 5 year old would offer the same level as the 'experts' they have in (the less said about ITV the better).
 
Educating Nick is a hopeless task. Perhaps we can create a thread called NickG's musings about Football Management? He can enlighten us all about the things he knows.
 
Lawrenson is the worst, Shearer is boring and just continually comes up with none-information and Hansen is outdated.

I don't have a problem with Lineker, but he shows little to no personality on the standard MotD format, where as on International duty for competitions and on Twitter he's actually quite funny.

It's standard for BBC to be out-dated and lack personality, but there's little doubt MotD is one of the very worst culprits for it. I just record it and fast forward them because I get absolutely nothing from it. No insight, no opinions, just completely standard, by the book, droll information.
It's the complete opposite from MNF where I actively seek out what Gary Neville has been saying. Ed Chamberlain leads that show like Lineker does on MotD, but there's little doubt Neville (and now Carragher) is the star, he gives genuine, relevant opinions and isn't afraid to say what's on his mind. The BBC are too worried about offending anyone or anything, it's a case of the ex-players union, 'We can't condemn the performance or attitude of a professional, let's look at something else'.

Just watch the Gary Neville viewpoint on diving as a comparison and you can see why Sky are miles ahead.

I'm not sure why BBC are so worried about BT, they haven't even started yet and my personal experience of McManaman is he's unable to drop any level of bias and doesn't really care for what's happening. I hate listening to him on the Fox Soccer coverage, especially as they always give him the bloody Man Utd games. Rio has personality, but can he actually convey it in a professional, insightful manner? We'll see. James speaks well. Michael Owen? I'll probably fall asleep, we all know football isn't his passion, commentating will just be getting in the way of his horse racing.

BBC need a fresh faced shake up. Thankfully it won't be professional moron, Colin Murray, as he's off, taking his 'face for radio' back to his originally calling, so I can ignore him again. Savage is actually pretty good, wouldn't have a problem with him, but can see them fleshing it out with full-time mumbler Martin Keown and Dube smacker, Dion Dublin, which is essentially just a younger version of the boring panel they have now.
 
Sounds like we might have another target to fall through at some late stage lol

Arsenal came out of nowhere to declare their interest in the 5ft 5” attacker, with ESPN Brazil reporter Ale Oliveira quoting simply:

"Bernard is going to join Arsenal." Said Oliveira on Brazilian radio.
 
bloodline76 said:
Sounds like we might have another target to fall through at some late stage lol

Arsenal came out of nowhere to declare their interest in the 5ft 5” attacker, with ESPN Brazil reporter Ale Oliveira quoting simply:

"Bernard is going to join Arsenal." Said Oliveira on Brazilian radio.
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It's not out of nowhere, go back 10 pages and you'll see his name mentioned :p

This the guy that Liverpool, Spurs and lots of others are chasing isn't it (Porto have had a 15 million euro/pound bid rejected haven't they).
 
Shamikebab said:
Educating Nick is a hopeless task. Perhaps we can create a thread called NickG's musings about Football Management? He can enlighten us all about the things he knows.
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Why do I bother to argue with him? In his mind, he is more knowledgeable than Alex Ferguson - it's hilarious.
 
The Running Man said:
Firstly competition. None of Europe's top clubs had offered him a job. This year or last year. We didn't have to fight to persuade moyes. It was Everton forever and then villa... or utd.

Secondly and this is linked to point 1, he didn't match the job spec. Big cup experience? Virtually zero. Sucess at a high level, none whatsoever. So what United said about an experienced manager with experience in big European fixtures was not met.

There was no decision for moyes to make. It was like the gifting of a job to someone under qualified. And not to mention he has not even been in the same ball park.

But that shouldn't preclude him from having an opinion on welbeck a player he must have seen play many times.

And no he wasn't targeting cavani whist at Everton so was unlikely to have any dossiers on him which is another reason you don't want a lower league manager taking on a top job because he doesn't know who he should be signing.
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Sir Alex Ferguson hand picked David Moyes, so your entire point is moot.

Also Malaga tried to poach Moyes, albeit not in the La Liga top 3 but still a recognised European club nonetheless.
 
NokkonWud said:
Lawrenson is the worst, Shearer is boring and just continually comes up with none-information and Hansen is outdated.

I don't have a problem with Lineker, but he shows little to no personality on the standard MotD format, where as on International duty for competitions and on Twitter he's actually quite funny.

It's standard for BBC to be out-dated and lack personality, but there's little doubt MotD is one of the very worst culprits for it. I just record it and fast forward them because I get absolutely nothing from it. No insight, no opinions, just completely standard, by the book, droll information.
It's the complete opposite from MNF where I actively seek out what Gary Neville has been saying. Ed Chamberlain leads that show like Lineker does on MotD, but there's little doubt Neville (and now Carragher) is the star, he gives genuine, relevant opinions and isn't afraid to say what's on his mind. The BBC are too worried about offending anyone or anything, it's a case of the ex-players union, 'We can't condemn the performance or attitude of a professional, let's look at something else'.

Just watch the Gary Neville viewpoint on diving as a comparison and you can see why Sky are miles ahead.

I'm not sure why BBC are so worried about BT, they haven't even started yet and my personal experience of McManaman is he's unable to drop any level of bias and doesn't really care for what's happening. I hate listening to him on the Fox Soccer coverage, especially as they always give him the bloody Man Utd games. Rio has personality, but can he actually convey it in a professional, insightful manner? We'll see. James speaks well. Michael Owen? I'll probably fall asleep, we all know football isn't his passion, commentating will just be getting in the way of his horse racing.

BBC need a fresh faced shake up. Thankfully it won't be professional moron, Colin Murray, as he's off, taking his 'face for radio' back to his originally calling, so I can ignore him again. Savage is actually pretty good, wouldn't have a problem with him, but can see them fleshing it out with full-time mumbler Martin Keown and Dube smacker, Dion Dublin, which is essentially just a younger version of the boring panel they have now.
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I don't disagree really.

Sky aren't that good, besides Neville (and now Carragher), the rest are just a much of muchness. It seems football punditry now is just best summed up as dull, there is nothing controversial, interesting or really expert to be had anymore. Sky just look a million miles ahead if you watch Monday night football and then watch Match of the Day or anything ITV do.

I mentioned two pundits / journalists that would utterly transform the Match of the Day show (Cox and Wilson). I agree with you about Savage, I quite like him, I find him quite funny on the rare occasion I listen to the 606 phone in, especially when he argues with stupid callers. I disagree about Colin Murray though, I don't mind him at all really. Him, Chappers and Lineker aren't a patch on AC Jimbo mind ;).
 
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