*** League of Legends ***

[bena868]

He has a point though, all I see here lately is people complaining about how bad there team were, not once has someone said "Oh man I failed my promotion today, I played so bad and lost it for my team" and don't tell it hasn't happened to everyone because I know for a fact it has.

Anyone whos complaning about being stuck in their league should just read this as it sums up why they are there . I know from experience that if you want to improve, dont blame your team, blame yourself. I managed to get from s3 to p5 since this season and if thats not enough proof for you then perhaps you belong where you are

 

[tals]

I agree totally, also some of the posts in this thread are questionable to put it nicely. I'm bronze but unless I start playing more roles that's where I deserve to be. I don't like letting people down and I know my limitations for the game I do need to use my smurf.account more though to properly experiment

 

[Jock]

Thats one of the problems i seem to have at the moment in that I want to try new champs and positions but even though im in a low league people still know what they are doing and rightly, want to win so theres not much scope to practice. Tried KogMaw for the first time and i did explain it was my first time but still took quite a bit of flak.

 

[Xiler]

Thats one of the problems i seem to have at the moment in that I want to try new champs and positions but even though im in a low league people still know what they are doing and rightly, want to win so theres not much scope to practice. Tried KogMaw for the first time and i did explain it was my first time but still took quite a bit of flak.

I wouldnt be trying new champs in ranked, that's what normal games are for.

 

[Spuj]

Thats one of the problems i seem to have at the moment in that I want to try new champs and positions but even though im in a low league people still know what they are doing and rightly, want to win so theres not much scope to practice. Tried KogMaw for the first time and i did explain it was my first time but still took quite a bit of flak.

It is generally common consensus that you try and practice new champs in blind or draft mode before playing them in ranked

 

[Crpwned]

It is generally common consensus that you try and practice new champs in blind or draft mode before playing them in ranked

Indeed, if you're trying out new champs in ranked games then expect to take a lot of flak for it

The majority of games I've been playing recently were just normals either learning new champs or just brushing up on the other roles mechanics as recently I haven't been able to grab jungle in a ranked game so end up pushed into another position.
The hardest I found to re-learn was AD postioning in teamfights and "orbwalking" (or stutter-stepping, whichever you prefer) to maximise dps while staying safe. Also last hitting effectively while also giving out decent poke in trades, forgot how much micro there is in that role.

When jungling i can just afk farm the jungle and not worry about anything until I got to gank a lane

 

[Jock]

Sorry didnt explain fully but it was normal, wouldnt have played them in ranked for obvious reasons. In fact on a bit of a roll with ranked at the minute having won the last 5 i think.

 

[Jock]

See when you help the jungler take blue in the opening minutes of the game, Id normally wait till its about 1/4 health then go to bottom lane but what about the xp from the kill? Should i be hanging around until its actually dead to get xp from it?

 

[m4rk84]

See when you help the jungler take blue in the opening minutes of the game, Id normally wait till its about 1/4 health then go to bottom lane but what about the xp from the kill? Should i be hanging around until its actually dead to get xp from it?

Most definitely not, the jungler really needs all the exp. Junglers rely on the early exp boost to put pressure on the map early. When I jungle if I notice my help hanging around to try and leach exp I usually stop attacking to force them to move away. The exp is extremely important.

 

[Jock]

Ah ok i didnt realise it meant the jungler got less experience if you got some. Thought maybe i was missing free experience.

 

[Crpwned]

If you're the AD carry I usually only ask for a few hits then you can go to lane so you don't lose out on valuable xp yourself and let the support carry on helping damage the blue or red buff.

A few more extra hits to me won't affect my jungling that much but a few missed creeps can be deadly for you as a lot of people just all-in level 2 these days if they ding it before tehir lane opponent.

 

[Xiler]

I still seem to be really struggling to read the opposite team in regards to counter items.

one of the best things i found is to watch streamers on twitch or youtube and see what they do when fighting a certain build/champ. Gives you an idea of what the champs/items do and how to counter them if they are winning.

 

[Fenris]

I still seem to be really struggling to read the opposite team in regards to counter items.

In what way? There are not "counter items" you just adapt your build to suit theres. Building lots of MR early? Get pen, all AD? Get armor, 99% of the time you should just go with a standard build anyway.

The word "counter" needs to die in LoL, the only counter is to outplay your opponents. The idea of champions "countering" each other is a noob trap. There are occasions where certain champions or playstyles counter others, but they are very specific cases, Blue Ez against non-tanacity non-ghost Udyr, stuff like that.

In lane, you "counter" by building and playing depending on how you are doing, against a bruiser and you are being zoned? Build appropriate defense and play safe. Snowballing? Build damage and snowball HARDER.


Only exception is Yorick because he counters everyone by being the most boring champion ever designed, "I spam ghosts and whack people, I have no counter play and exist only to annoy real champions", can't wait for his rework...

 

[JohnnyDrama]

cho'gath says hi

Malz on the enemy team? Rush QSS

 

[just Scott]

Sorry Tals and co for not showing up for ranked 5s. I really wanted this promotion

 

[tals]

Np at all and congratulations, we went down in our league - I think the consensus is we definitely need you or Wacky on as we seemed to get ranked against Plats as well. Played a draft mode later and whilst it was enjoyable it was a little too troly for my liking Aram is better for that style of game

Not going to be on much now till late next week (though may get some day games and Sunday evening games in)

 

[Alpherah]

This also, part of the learning process to becoming a better player is admitting your mistakes and improving them next time.

The comment was obviously aimed at me, so my riposte:
What can I do to improve against a team disconnecting/going afk?
What can I do to improve a player refusing to move from base because he didnt get the role he wanted?
What can I do to improve having two ADC's bot because none of them wanted to play support?

In a normal scenario, my win/loss would be between 50/50 and 60/50, but recently the vast majority of games have one of the above scenario's, so the loss rate is more like 90% and there's nothing I can do about it. Its frustrating to the max.

 

[tals]

I think he comment was a general point. AFK players you can do nothing about, although early game the lack of 1 player can help as it gives that lane more experience. The lower the skill team the more you can take advantage of this if it occurs. But yes just report is all that you can ultimately do

2 adc's bot is not the end if the world - potentially they could be a nusicance - farm will be the main loss. Late game then it will mean those towers will go down very quickly and your damage will be high - whereas a support tends to tail off towards the end.

If you are genuinally getting afkers in all your games then I feel for you, that is bad and personally i'd look to create a team (which is what I did!) from people in here or your own friends. But we see so many posts i'm a bronze should be a plat my team mates suck and we see so little posts which say - you know what my positioning was terrible/I left my adc (even though he was bad)/I pushed to hard/I didn' ward well etc etc Chis is on the money with that as a general comment not aimed at anyone in particular

 

[Evilsod]

That is absolute rubbish. Having a man down at the start? Sorry there's no way there's a silver lining to that. You lose the support and your ADC will almost certainly need a fair bit of assist from the jungler. You lose your ADC your late game is ****ed unless by some miracle you snowball the other lanes which is even less likely now your jungler has to cover bot. You lose your jungler and your opponents know they have absolutely nothing to fear as far as ganks go and can freely raid your jungle. Top/Mid, you have to move your jungler to cover the lane. There's is absolutely no benefit in terms of experience. All you do is lose most of your gank potential so the other team doesn't have to worry about pushing lanes hard.

And you can guarantee if you get 2 ADC bot the teams early game is going to be full of negative attitudes as they try to outfarm each other. It might work out for the best eventually but if you've already got 2 ADCs you can pretty much guarantee the teams communication isn't the best and it'll need that to actually utilise 2 squishy ADCs in team fights.