1st August... but apart from finer details and price we pretty much know what to expect
Google-Motorola "X Phone" in the 2013 pipeline?
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Phone looks pretty thick there! Hopefully due to a big battery or/and big camera sensor!
The problem is if they went down that route then the device would be costing at least £450-500 and then be in the same category as the htc one, gs 4, xperia Z, iphone 5 etc. and regardless of if the moto x was a better device overall, those phones will still probably sell better. By the sounds and looks of it, moto are concentrating on the bang to buck and user experience, which is the right move imo. If people want power houses then you already have four great phones for that, htc one, xz, oppo find 5 and GS 4 and soon the note III etc.
Also, perhaps this is the only way that moto could get the networks etc. to show lots of interest in the device? Don't forget the companies have to not only "sell" the devices to us but also to the network/phone shops.
Reason there is so much hype is largely because of it having a few unique things over the likes of the one, gs 4 (supposedly) i.e.
- custom back plates, engraving, different colour backs
- a really good camera sensor that could finally allow most, if not all the shots to come out blur free especially in low light, so many phones suck in this area, the only phone that can capture motion extremely well in all conditions is the htc one with zoe mode
- hardware specs might not look like high end on paper but in real world usage, you will have a hard time telling the difference. 1080P is great but the only place where I find it to be SUPERB is when browsing. Assuming the price is £200-250 for the X, would most people consider a 1080P screen, front facing speakers, SD slot to be worth the extra £200-250?
- always on mic sensor/tech so it is aware of what you want without having to unlock the device and then we might have a ton of other really useful software features i.e. a few of them being the new notification system (IMO a lot better than a dedicated NLED)
- bang to buck, nexus 4 was a pretty big success purely due to the price to hardware specs so if moto can match or beat that (baring in mind that the device is already sounding/looking better than the n4) then it should do pretty well
- possibly good long term support (I expect this to be pretty well supported and to get updates quicker than htc and samsung phones)
The problem is if they went down that route then the device would be costing at least £450-500 and then be in the same category as the htc one, gs 4, xperia Z, iphone 5 etc. and regardless of if the moto x was a better device overall, those phones will still probably sell better. By the sounds and looks of it, moto are concentrating on the bang to buck and user experience, which is the right move imo. If people want power houses then you already have four great phones for that, htc one, xz, oppo find 5 and GS 4 and soon the note III etc.
Also, perhaps this is the only way that moto could get the networks etc. to show lots of interest in the device? Don't forget the companies have to not only "sell" the devices to us but also to the network/phone shops.
Reason there is so much hype is largely because of it having a few unique things over the likes of the one, gs 4 (supposedly) i.e.
- custom back plates, engraving, different colour backs
- a really good camera sensor that could finally allow most, if not all the shots to come out blur free especially in low light, so many phones suck in this area, the only phone that can capture motion extremely well in all conditions is the htc one with zoe mode
- hardware specs might not look like high end on paper but in real world usage, you will have a hard time telling the difference. 1080P is great but the only place where I find it to be SUPERB is when browsing. Assuming the price is £200-250 for the X, would most people consider a 1080P screen, front facing speakers, SD slot to be worth the extra £200-250?
- always on mic sensor/tech so it is aware of what you want without having to unlock the device and then we might have a ton of other really useful software features i.e. a few of them being the new notification system (IMO a lot better than a dedicated NLED)
- bang to buck, nexus 4 was a pretty big success purely due to the price to hardware specs so if moto can match or beat that (baring in mind that the device is already sounding/looking better than the n4) then it should do pretty well
- possibly good long term support (I expect this to be pretty well supported and to get updates quicker than htc and samsung phones)
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I don't think it is going to be as cheap as others are hoping customised and made in usa do not result in cheap. I also don't think it will be that successful here due to how our phone system works. And by the time this comes out the now flag ship models which are already superior will have dropped in price. I might be wrong but I don't think so.
Not many will go for this I feel.
To little and much to late. This needed to be launched at time of nexus etc.
Also I see the new notification system being much worse
Not many will go for this I feel.
To little and much to late. This needed to be launched at time of nexus etc.
Also I see the new notification system being much worse
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Speaker on the back.....Why?
After getting the HTC One how can anyone go back to a rear speaker.
After getting the HTC One how can anyone go back to a rear speaker.
I have seriously not seen a single review saying front facing speakers is a negative. The only thing against it that I've read is dirt can get in there, but that's pretty much guaranteed when you have little holes on a device.
Read what type. I have no issues with front stereo speakers at all. Every top end phone should have them. It's how it's laid out on the front. 2 massive speaker grills like a 1994 nicam stereo TV is not nice. Descret like when mentioned the 5800 xpress music from Nokia. Best design ever for speaker placement. HTC one bugs me on many levels but no question it's a very good phone.
I suspect the mid range phone sales volume will be bigger than high end range - but don't know for sure. It is looking mid range but await confirmation from Motorola. Not much mention of UK and EU marketing yet?
There is where they may struggle in the UK? No real interest much for Motorola devices currently?
You can hope
I think it could be a decent mid range phone going on so called leaked specs. I don't see myself wanting to drop the Razr HD though as it does everything I want it to do well with good screen, signal reception and good battery life. I don't game on my phone but find dual core more than adequate. If the X is around 18-19K AnTuTu score then it's not so bad? I think when I ran it on my Razr HD I got just over 9k
If I read through the HTC One thread I could probably find my answer but did you not consider a HTC One for your next phone Nexus?
So far the only thing that stops it from being a true high end device (that we do know of) is the screen res. and for some storage. Kind of reminds me of the one s situation tbh As those two areas are the only things that stoppd it from being consider a proper high end device.
Not just here but all over the world, even USA. Networks/phone shops just have to look at what moto sales have been like in the last few years (which have been awful and decreasing big time)
If google being involved in this phone are true then hopefully it will mean that moto will have to keep the phone up to date and in a timely manner otherwise it will not only look bad on moto but also tarnish google's image. Hopefully the moto X will actually come out with 4.3......
Not bad at all! Which is what is confusing, people look at the specs and just see dual and automatically assume that it is going to be poor or not as good as quad
Just compare tegra 3 to dual krait S4! For comparison the HTC one gets 22678 and the GS 4 gets 24716. IIRC the one s gets around 10000 and as you know yourself, it is far from slow in real world usage. But benchmarks are useless, have very little relation to real world usage i.e. gs 4 when it first came out was the king of benchmarks but come to real world usage it was a laggy mess throughout (supposedly been fixed/improved now though)
Until android and apps are properly coded to utilise the true potential of quad, then quad is utterly useless, purely marketing talk.
I was but:
- I am editing my photos a fair bit now, cropping etc. so 4MP isn't enough, shame as apart from that, the camera is excellent overall
- HTC questionable support/updates for the one S has put me of big time
- not overly fussed on the design of the front + too tall looking, the screen to bezel ratio just doesn't look right
- not worthy enough upgrade compared to the S overall considering I would have to pay about £400 up front
I am most curious about the price, can't say what I have been told (for a slightly different version though), but it sounds too good to be true if the supposed camera spec. etc. is true but then again look at the oppo find 5 and its price and it is also built extremely well, as good as the htc one so if they can bring out a phone with "high end" specs, solid construction materials, the wee extras at that sort of price (£350+) then what is to say that moto can't make a significantly cheaper phone considering the specs?
All in all, moto have to nail it in every area this time; have a superb/good device for the price, which has a few unique features over the gs 4 etc., market it a **** load EVERYWHERE! (if they don't have this then game over), good support, good QC & customer service, plenty of stock to go round etc. otherwise I feel like they are never going to make a come back
And we badly need more good android competition as Samsung are just dominating the android market.
As those two areas are the only things that stoppd it from being consider a proper high end device.Not just here but all over the world, even USA. Networks/phone shops just have to look at what moto sales have been like in the last few years (which have been awful and decreasing big time)
If google being involved in this phone are true then hopefully it will mean that moto will have to keep the phone up to date and in a timely manner otherwise it will not only look bad on moto but also tarnish google's image. Hopefully the moto X will actually come out with 4.3......
Not bad at all! Which is what is confusing, people look at the specs and just see dual and automatically assume that it is going to be poor or not as good as quad
Just compare tegra 3 to dual krait S4! For comparison the HTC one gets 22678 and the GS 4 gets 24716. IIRC the one s gets around 10000 and as you know yourself, it is far from slow in real world usage. But benchmarks are useless, have very little relation to real world usage i.e. gs 4 when it first came out was the king of benchmarks but come to real world usage it was a laggy mess throughout (supposedly been fixed/improved now though)Until android and apps are properly coded to utilise the true potential of quad, then quad is utterly useless, purely marketing talk.
I was but:
- I am editing my photos a fair bit now, cropping etc. so 4MP isn't enough, shame as apart from that, the camera is excellent overall
- HTC questionable support/updates for the one S has put me of big time
- not overly fussed on the design of the front + too tall looking, the screen to bezel ratio just doesn't look right
- not worthy enough upgrade compared to the S overall considering I would have to pay about £400 up front
I am most curious about the price, can't say what I have been told (for a slightly different version though), but it sounds too good to be true if the supposed camera spec. etc. is true but then again look at the oppo find 5 and its price and it is also built extremely well, as good as the htc one so if they can bring out a phone with "high end" specs, solid construction materials, the wee extras at that sort of price (£350+) then what is to say that moto can't make a significantly cheaper phone considering the specs?
All in all, moto have to nail it in every area this time; have a superb/good device for the price, which has a few unique features over the gs 4 etc., market it a **** load EVERYWHERE! (if they don't have this then game over), good support, good QC & customer service, plenty of stock to go round etc. otherwise I feel like they are never going to make a come back
And we badly need more good android competition as Samsung are just dominating the android market.
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thats very poor, another average spec
just think they have set the stall out wrong, when you are bouncing back from a poor few years you don't make an average phone, you bring in a game changer, or at least something that will be mentioned in the same breath as the HTC One and the S4.
odd approach unless it really is around $300
odd approach unless it really is around $300
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If its optimized right 2200 could be amazing for battery life. Unless you have used it you have no idea how good it will be.
A bigger mah is always going to give better battery life though, no matter how optimised it is.
the battery in mine is 3300mah and it was very useful when out and about looking for where to go etc. after having a phone that needs charging multiple times a day (previous phone) i wont ever have a small battery again.
Software optimisation is the most important thing. It can make or break any single area, be it sound, performance, camera, screen, battery life etc.
You just have to look at the nexus 4 when it first came out and after 4.2.2, the battery life increased considerably, iirc the nexus 4 was scoring the lowest in all battery benchmarks by a lot and people were lucky if they could get past the 3 hours on screen time.
The gS 3 had great battery life with its 2100mah iirc, the moto x will be using a more power efficient chipset and for all we know the software optimisation could be very good as that is where moto seem to be putting their efforts.
If the supposed specs are true including the camera hardware (assume it performs just as good as the htc one and gs 4 overall), battery life is just as good, performance in real world is just as good etc. and they sell it for £200-250, then it will be a very viable alternative to the gs 4/htc one, the only main areas where the htc one/gs 4 will win are as follows:
- screen
- htc ones speakers
- storage
software, design etc. is personal preference.
imo the htc one and gs 4 aren't worth an extra £200-250
Game changer? Probably not, regardless of the price, unless it is priced stupidly low i.e. less than £200
People thought the n4 was amazing and realistically it wasn't any better than the htc one x/s, gs 3, especially in the camera department and screen wasn't quite as good plus battery life at the beginning was terrible and then the volume is too low, which is further reduced when the phone is placed on a desk etc.
You just have to look at the nexus 4 when it first came out and after 4.2.2, the battery life increased considerably, iirc the nexus 4 was scoring the lowest in all battery benchmarks by a lot and people were lucky if they could get past the 3 hours on screen time.
The gS 3 had great battery life with its 2100mah iirc, the moto x will be using a more power efficient chipset and for all we know the software optimisation could be very good as that is where moto seem to be putting their efforts.
If the supposed specs are true including the camera hardware (assume it performs just as good as the htc one and gs 4 overall), battery life is just as good, performance in real world is just as good etc. and they sell it for £200-250, then it will be a very viable alternative to the gs 4/htc one, the only main areas where the htc one/gs 4 will win are as follows:
- screen
- htc ones speakers
- storage
software, design etc. is personal preference.
imo the htc one and gs 4 aren't worth an extra £200-250
Game changer? Probably not, regardless of the price, unless it is priced stupidly low i.e. less than £200
People thought the n4 was amazing and realistically it wasn't any better than the htc one x/s, gs 3, especially in the camera department and screen wasn't quite as good plus battery life at the beginning was terrible and then the volume is too low, which is further reduced when the phone is placed on a desk etc.
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I get what you mean, but its all leaks and rumors without any real numbers. If it come out with 2200mah and it sucks they by all means bash it but till then i guess we should give it the benefit of doubt.