Ban women from shopping alone

If we take in to account the human rights that should be afforded to people, Islamic clerics need to give independant woman more credit. I also think that the plastic culture of repressive ideologies needs to stop taking swipes at females.
 
Perhaps Muslim men should only be allowed in public with their wives or mothers, as they appear to lack self control?

Actually if I went without food all day because of some fast then a woman's sexy ankle would be the last thing on my mind, I'd be thinking about a bacon sandwich.

Maybe that's the real problem: no bacon = no rational thinking :/
 
About time too. I'm sick of Women acting extremely promiscuously in public areas causing me to have unclean thoughts. I hope when we get Sharia law in London we can enforce this swiftly and chop the hands off or stone to death any woman that dares to leave the house without a chaperone, dirty little whoresum *****.
 
Would probably be far less violence in the middle east if roles were reversed and women had to chaperone the men when outside the home.
 
Why would the police enforce this? Wouldn't the Pakistani government intervene?

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Ah, as mentioned above, the police aren't going to.
 
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smelly_legend said:
If we take in to account the human rights that should be afforded to people, Islamic clerics need to give independant woman more credit. I also think that the plastic culture of repressive ideologies needs to stop taking swipes at females.
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An interesting selection of words ;)
 
MooMoo444 said:
Couldn't give a **** if backward countries want to follow backward traditions. It doesn't affect me.
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You know when people come into the UK to escape their desert crap hole existence? Some of them still believe this is the right way to behave, because of that they want the same situation here. Then is the moment when all this nonsense starts to affect you (or at least the communities nearest to them)

muon said:
Wouldn't the Pakistani government intervene?
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Do you mean the same Pakistani government who don't want to upset groups like this in case they get killed? Or the same Police who are entirely in favour of extremist Islam because it makes their life so much easier (no hands, no crime).

This is all going on in NW Pakistan where all the Pashtuns fled to from Afghanistan, the Taliban have a lot of support in this area. The Pakistani government isn't going to do a thing, much like they did nothing about Bin Laden living next door.
 
Muslims must have no self control, that is why all year round they make their women cover up and then once a year they have to pretend to test themselves in a show of self righteous indignation. I guess covering up and forcing women to stay at home, is one solution to lust, another solution would just be to grow up and put your **** away.
 
Fenris said:
Seriously though, it is the culture much more than the religion that is the cause of this, the term "tribal elder" is a pretty big give away. Sadly Islam is to deeply tied within their culture that you can't realistically blame one without blaming the other, Islam IS their culture. It might not be what western Muslims consider the right way to go about interpreting their religion but sadly that doesn't remove the fact that they do interpret it that way and in doing so they literally invite criticism with every step.
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Spot on with that comment.
 
muon said:
Except such a position wouldn't even be popular within Pakistan as a whole.
If you order by population size here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
you will note that most of the population is outside of highly illiberal countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran.
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Really not sure where you were going with that comment :confused: or even how it relates to Fenris's post.
The big black blobs in the centre are Saudi and Pakistan, Africa is empty anyway?
 
bitslice said:
You know when people come into the UK to escape their desert crap hole existence? Some of them still believe this is the right way to behave, because of that they want the same situation here. Then is the moment when all this nonsense starts to affect you (or at least the communities nearest to them)

Do you mean the same Pakistani government who don't want to upset groups like this in case they get killed? Or the same Police who are entirely in favour of extremist Islam because it makes their life so much easier (no hands, no crime).

This is all going on in NW Pakistan where all the Pashtuns fled to from Afghanistan, the Taliban have a lot of support in this area. The Pakistani government isn't going to do a thing, much like they did nothing about Bin Laden living next door.
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Thousands of Pakistani soldiers died clearing out these people from SWAT and other areas in NWFP, military bases outside the NWFP have been attacked on a number of occasions now. So your quite wrong there.

Go to major cities and you can find women wearing jeans and many many without veils. Plenty of pashtuns in these cities too. Not causing trouble for the most part, some of them make nice chips too.
 
B&W said:
Thousands of Pakistani soldiers died clearing out these people from SWAT and other areas in NWFP, military bases outside the NWFP have been attacked on a number of occasions now. So your quite wrong there.
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It's not that simple - there are terrorist groups who are able to operate there without much interference from the Pakistani regime - there are also plenty in that regime who hate the USA despite all the funding they receive. The Pakistani army does fire artillery at Afghan positions, Pakistani personnel have been caught in Afghan and if they didn't have such an issue in these provinces then there would be little need for drone strikes - Pakistan keeps some of these groups going to further its own interests in Afghanistan. There is a reason why the US couldn't trust them over Bin Laden. The Doctor who helped locate Bin Laden is still in prison over there and the Intelligence service is not happy at all with him - plenty of them see the USA as their enemy.
 
B&W said:
Thousands of Pakistani soldiers died clearing out these people from SWAT and other areas in NWFP, military bases outside the NWFP have been attacked on a number of occasions now. So your quite wrong there.
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Wrong where? I never mentioned the Army :confused:
Go to major cities
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Why are we talking about major cities? I wasn't, NW is mainly tribal.

Pakistan clearly has to play off both sides, because it's all going to (back to) poo once the Americans leave.
 
smelly_legend said:
If we take in to account the human rights that should be afforded to people, Islamic clerics need to give independant woman more credit. I also think that the plastic culture of repressive ideologies needs to stop taking swipes at females.
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What are you talking about?
There are no independent woman in Islam.
Someone is always responsible for you.
Your father when young, your eldest brother if the father is dead.
Your husband while married.
Your son when you are old if your husband is deceased.
Independent, LOL.
 
bitslice said:
Really not sure where you were going with that comment :confused: or even how it relates to Fenris's post.
The big black blobs in the centre are Saudi and Pakistan, Africa is empty anyway?
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Well the key was to look at the table and sort by muslim population as mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#List

The point is that tribal elders in Afghanistan and Pakistan and their interpretation isn't really that widespread. So having to link the cultures of these religions is not justifiable, without strong caveats.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
What are you talking about?
There are no independent woman in Islam.
Someone is always responsible for you.
Your father when young, your eldest brother if the father is dead.
Your husband while married.
Your son when you are old if your husband is deceased.
Independent, LOL.
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Maybe they are not, but at least when they get the boots of their male counterpart they'll store self pride and aren't afraid to get malled, however, the actions of males are certainly over the limit.
 
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