Ohhhh more leaks!
4.7" screen? Balls...
It has a pretty damn small bezel though
Plus looks quite ergonomically curvy.Google-Motorola "X Phone" in the 2013 pipeline?
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It has a pretty damn small bezel though
Plus looks quite ergonomically curvy.hmmm, just read that moto aren't having a crowd or stage for the announcement of the moto X so essentially a private event, not a wise move imo :/ Especially if the device is really good.
They need something like the Galaxy devices etc. announcements, might be incredibly cheesy etc. but it gets people talking about it and you get a much wider audience, more interest, more attention etc.
Lets hope that their marketing is superb (assuming the X is a great device)
They need something like the Galaxy devices etc. announcements, might be incredibly cheesy etc. but it gets people talking about it and you get a much wider audience, more interest, more attention etc.
Lets hope that their marketing is superb (assuming the X is a great device)
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This looks like Motorola have copied the one s and are releasing it 1 yr later with a lower price.
The only thing USPs this could have are either price or camera. Either way superb support and nexus likes updates are a must too.
Otherwise, why wouldn't I go and buy? one of a hundred great mid range offerings for around £300?
The only thing USPs this could have are either price or camera. Either way superb support and nexus likes updates are a must too.
Otherwise, why wouldn't I go and buy? one of a hundred great mid range offerings for around £300?
i guess for me the things that use battery are unoptimisable (real word??) things.
gps+cell signal+screen for out on the bicycle
generally living in a low signal area for 3 network
i thought this was a 4.5, 4.7 is ok, its what i have now.
I think the best thing about my new phone compared to my old is the battery life 1750 old >3300 new
we need a new battery tech!
It has a pretty damn small bezel though
It'll be shorter than the HTC one mini for sure
But we're rolling in 'large' 130mm x 65mm plus Android phones, absolutely rolling in them! We need better 120mm x 60mm options, I had high hopes the Moto X would be Androids 'iPhone' alternative. Guess not.
Those things can be down to drivers and software optimisation too.
i.e.
- one s received a few updates that significantly improved reception when using a WCDMA only connection and less constant switching from g/e to h/3g
- People in the galaxy threads talk about different modems and iirc mrk posted a few screenshots comparing different modems and one of them had a much better internet speed as well as ping, was either with his note II or gs 3 or perhaps his gs 2. A few are talking about this is the last few pages of the gs 3 thread.
- same for GPS, 99% sure that I read some phone's GPS (can't remember which) improved after an update
- screen is largely hardware related but you can optimise the software, calibration so that it won't drain as much i.e. like what Samsung have done with the galaxy devices where the max brightness when set manually is actually limited by quite a bit and of course good optimisation for auto brightness sensor and then what htc have with their power saver, it significantly reduces brightness
Obviously if you don't have great signal to begin with that is purely down to the network coverage then there isn't a lot you can do with regards to software, different modems etc. Generally Motorola have good antennas though, Richy can tell you all about that!
Huge +1 to that! Wish companies would invent some new battery tech or have some form of true wireless charging like what HTC are/were supposedly going to have on their devices.
It'll be shorter than the HTC one mini for sure
But we're rolling in 'large' 130mm x 65mm plus Android phones, absolutely rolling in them! We need better 120mm x 60mm options, I had high hopes the Moto X would be Androids 'iPhone' alternative. Guess not.
hehe
You got to love the bezel on that device! Motorola might release a smaller screen version........
Just having a look at their previous razr phones and they are actually pretty small:
one S - 130.9 x 65 x 7.8 mm
Razr M - 122.5 x 60.9 x 8.3 mm
GS 3 - 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm
one x - 134.4 x 69.9 x 8.9 mm
razr hd - 131.9 x 67.9 x 8.4 mm
The moto X looks smaller than the razr hd too, at least in terms of height.
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My One x has shocking battery life due to small battery and terrible CPU
It is more the tegra 3 chipset that lets it down than the battery, one xl (same phone as the x but s4 cpu chipset)has excellent battery life.
Although iirc, do you not have like 3-5 email accounts syncing with hundreds of emails coming through? That won't help at all
Although iirc, do you not have like 3-5 email accounts syncing with hundreds of emails coming through? That won't help at all
It'll be shorter than the HTC one mini for sure
But we're rolling in 'large' 130mm x 65mm plus Android phones, absolutely rolling in them! We need better 120mm x 60mm options, I had high hopes the Moto X would be Androids 'iPhone' alternative. Guess not.
one and one mini have massive bazels
even my find 5 looks small compared to those lol.
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It is more the tegra 3 chipset that lets it down than the battery, one xl (same phone as the x but s4 cpu chipset)has excellent battery life.
Although iirc, do you not have like 3-5 email accounts syncing with hundreds of emails coming through? That won't help at all
I actually do lol I can tone it down to 3.
For those that like epeen benchmarks
So all that is left now is;
- actual camera spec
- software feature set
- speaker quality/loudness
- price (needs to be around £200-250)
- screen quality overall i.e. brightness, calibration, view ability in sun shine
- battery life (should be a bit better than the gs 3/one xl/s assuming software optimisation is roughly the same)
Love the design of this phone!
I am betting that we will get a slightly different version though or nothing at all
So all that is left now is;
- actual camera spec
- software feature set
- speaker quality/loudness
- price (needs to be around £200-250)
- screen quality overall i.e. brightness, calibration, view ability in sun shine
- battery life (should be a bit better than the gs 3/one xl/s assuming software optimisation is roughly the same)
Love the design of this phone!
I am betting that we will get a slightly different version though or nothing at all
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Everything there is fine with me but personally I think the price needs to be £200 or less.
Reason being that even though this likely matches the nexus 4 performance wise its still 'just a dual core' and seeing as this is android and we seem to like specs too people will think if I can/could get the quad core nexus 4 from 240 why should I pay over 200 for the moto x (direct from google obviously).
Even more so if an updated nexus 4 comes out with lte/better cpu and keeps a similar price point.
Reason being that even though this likely matches the nexus 4 performance wise its still 'just a dual core' and seeing as this is android and we seem to like specs too people will think if I can/could get the quad core nexus 4 from 240 why should I pay over 200 for the moto x (direct from google obviously).
Even more so if an updated nexus 4 comes out with lte/better cpu and keeps a similar price point.
I doubt that we will see an updated nexus 4 come out, google aren't like Samsung, htc etc. Especially when they will most likely be launching a nexus 5 with KLP around November/December time so it would be rather pointless to release an updated n4 next week.
It might be dual core, but it is a damn powerful dual core cpu, matching nexus 4 etc. and then it obliterates them in the gpu benchmarks (more important for gaming) especially if this is true regarding the difference in screen res.:
Could be a number of reasons why people would go for the moto x over the n4 even if they are a similar price:
- camera
- better battery life
- better performance overall
- screen (if it is SAMOLED, that will win a lot of people over especially since a lot of people aren't pleased with the n4 screen out of the box)
- extra software features, like the always on mic/aware thing (if you use google now etc. a lot this will be great), notification system and possibly other things, only downside could be the support compared to the nexus line
- better speaker, especially in terms of loudness
- custom backs etc.
I much rather have all the above (except the last point, not too fussed on that, although the choice of a kevlar back, aluminium, plastic etc. sounds pretty good) over an extra 2 cores that will bring nothing Would much rather have a 1080P res. or RGB sub-pixel arrangement (assuming it is SAMOLED) over quad!
If the camera is just a standard "phone camera" that is barely any better than the nexus 4 then the price will definitely have to be no more than £200
Until proper reviews etc. are out, we won't know for sure just how good this device is or how it should be priced.
Hopefully we will start to see some photos now as that is what I am most curious about and praying that it won't be a let down!
Especially when they will most likely be launching a nexus 5 with KLP around November/December time so it would be rather pointless to release an updated n4 next week.It might be dual core, but it is a damn powerful dual core cpu, matching nexus 4 etc. and then it obliterates them in the gpu benchmarks (more important for gaming) especially if this is true regarding the difference in screen res.:
Could be a number of reasons why people would go for the moto x over the n4 even if they are a similar price:
- camera
- better battery life
- better performance overall
- screen (if it is SAMOLED, that will win a lot of people over especially since a lot of people aren't pleased with the n4 screen out of the box)
- extra software features, like the always on mic/aware thing (if you use google now etc. a lot this will be great), notification system and possibly other things, only downside could be the support compared to the nexus line
- better speaker, especially in terms of loudness
- custom backs etc.
I much rather have all the above (except the last point, not too fussed on that, although the choice of a kevlar back, aluminium, plastic etc. sounds pretty good) over an extra 2 cores that will bring nothing
Would much rather have a 1080P res. or RGB sub-pixel arrangement (assuming it is SAMOLED) over quad! If the camera is just a standard "phone camera" that is barely any better than the nexus 4 then the price will definitely have to be no more than £200
Until proper reviews etc. are out, we won't know for sure just how good this device is or how it should be priced.
Hopefully we will start to see some photos now as that is what I am most curious about and praying that it won't be a let down!
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299 it won't sell IMO.. id be all "umh ehm ehr.." if i was to have a budget of 299.. and probably go for n4! 
even if this had a better camera its just.. erm.. midrange at best? needs to be CHEAP.. i think this massive hype and those avarage specs will hurt motorola big time.. you know what happens when you hype something up too much and don't deliver.
even if this had a better camera its just.. erm.. midrange at best? needs to be CHEAP.. i think this massive hype and those avarage specs will hurt motorola big time..
you know what happens when you hype something up too much and don't deliver.
Spec isn't an issue, this phone looks to be highly optimised and that's good, this is the direction Android should be heading and that low CPU frequency means battery life from 2200mAh should be truly excellent when the phone is just idling.
The only downside I can see is 12GB usable space from 16GB total. That's inexcusable. No modern phone should have less than 32GB where it doesn't come with an SD card slot and because of that it gets an instant flop from me. That kind of thing is bad for the competition as well because if a Google phone comes with such low storage then other makers will not compete and just release phones with similar low storage amounts (which they already do).
The only downside I can see is 12GB usable space from 16GB total. That's inexcusable. No modern phone should have less than 32GB where it doesn't come with an SD card slot and because of that it gets an instant flop from me. That kind of thing is bad for the competition as well because if a Google phone comes with such low storage then other makers will not compete and just release phones with similar low storage amounts (which they already do).
You sell 100 million iPhones
The GS4, HTC One, Moto X and N4 all have the same GPU and get the same benchmarks when running the same drivers, give or take 1 or 2 fps.
3D games don't run at 1080p, they'll all have the same gaming performance. (unless an OEM drops support and doesn't deliver latest drivers or OS, *cough* HTC *cough* Grrrr)
4 Krait cores are utterly pointless in a phone platform, the heat would melt the phone if used fully. I could glue my old core 2 Duo 8400 to the back and it would give a similar performance boost.