David Cameron urges internet firms to block child abuse images

[TW]Fox;24649780 said:
Where does it stop?

How long until it is a criminal offence to watch Saw V after the government expands it the legislation to ban 'simulated murder and torture'?

It's not so much the proposals but the floodgates they open.

I still need to reply to your email btw, I've not ignored it, honest :p
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Well, one would hope that people would have the good taste not to care if watching a Saw film became a criminal offence, perhaps they'd watch something worthwhile then.

On a slightly less facetious note, I can understand why people worry about the precedent such legislation could set, but I can't say I'm entirely convinced the changes brought about will be as broad or Orwellian as some would have us believe. More to the point, the efficacy of such changes to those who want to get around them will, no doubt, be a joke. ISPs have already blocked access to large swathes of torrent sites, yet we all have access to places like Silkroad where you can easily stock up on counterfeit money, narcotics, prescription drugs and even guns.

In some ways, if it goes to the wire and Cameron decides he has to legislate it rather than try to strong arm it, one would expect that it's dead in the water (which would suggest why he didn't just try to push a Bill outright). That is assuming, of course, that they even follow through on this.

^^all of this is a lot of speculatory rambling, btw. I've not had my coffee yet.

No sweat on the email dude, I'm still scouring the classifieds like a grade A plonker. :p
 
Diagro said:
What are you? A Christian prude?
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Nah, probably a Daily Mail reader...

This whole thing reminds me of the hysteria over violent video games. But just as humans have been murdering each other since long before the electronic age arrived, those inclined to go out and rape someone or commit insidious paedophilia has been around long before the ability to view pron online.
 
sajtion said:
i am in favour of this and think porn should be banned altogether. the kind of stuff kids and even young adults are exposed is terrible. it can totally mess up the mind. i say good riddance to pornography. i think this society has gone bonkus judging by all the amateur things people post online. yuck
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LOL.
 
sajtion said:
i am in favour of this and think porn should be banned altogether. the kind of stuff kids and even young adults are exposed is terrible. it can totally mess up the mind. i say good riddance to pornography. i think this society has gone bonkus judging by all the amateur things people post online. yuck
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Wow. Somebody's a little pent up. A five knuckle shuffle and a bit of harmless grot may mellow you out a bit mate.
 
sajtion said:
i am in favour of this and think porn should be banned altogether. the kind of stuff kids and even young adults are exposed is terrible. it can totally mess up the mind. i say good riddance to pornography. i think this society has gone bonkus judging by all the amateur things people post online. yuck
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Spent a lot of time "researching" what amateur things people post online, have we?
 
Mr Jack said:
Spent a lot of time "researching" what amateur things people post online, have we?
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Indeed.

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. :D

On a side note - my views are odd, I don't approve of say prostitution or most pron on the grounds of exploitation of the economically disadvantaged/commoditisation of people.

But on the other hand - I have no problem whatsoever with exhibitionists filming what they do to be viewed by others (as it has a different motivation structure behind it) - the perfect synergy of exhibitionists & voyeurs with no ethical concerns whatsoever :p.

Adult material on it's own is not remotely unethical, just when people who are coerced, unable to give reasonable consent or are exploited at taken into the mix.
 
sajtion said:
i am in favour of this and think porn should be banned altogether. the kind of stuff kids and even young adults are exposed is terrible. it can totally mess up the mind. i say good riddance to pornography. i think this society has gone bonkus judging by all the amateur things people post online. yuck
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Hey sajtion....the middle ages just called, they want their attitude to consensual sexual activities between adults back.
 
Quote from someone in Guardian said:
1. Get ISPs filtering more (remember it started with piracy).
2. Get search engines blocking access to perfectly legal and acceptble (poorly acted in most cases) role play porn.
3. Now that ISps and Search enginesa are easily able to block content ensure they block the next national security leak.
4. Begin blocking search terms relating to how to circumvent blocking/censorship.
5. claim VPNs are aiding piracy. i) Tax them, ii) restrict them to business use, iii)attack their funds.
6. begin restricting all blacklisted search terms. Anything anti government, free thinking or remotely anti establishment will be banned.
7. A fully regulated and controlled internet that resembles something cobbled together by the BBC.
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Yeah....this looks about right. If the powers that be get their way all we will be able to use the internet for is paying tax, watching adverts so the advertisers get money that they can pay tax on, and buying stuff, so we can pay 20% tax on it.

Any member of the public that would support something so backwards and oppressive should be ashamed to call themselves an inhabitant of the free world.
 
I wish one of those hot shot TV interviewers would ask David Cameron "have you ever watched, used or enjoyed online porn ?"

If he answered yes it would be interesting

If he answered no it could be even more interesting.
 
Mehhh, just goes to show how out of touch and technology ignorant most of these politicians are!!
My 11 year old nephew and most youngsters would get around this censorship/blocking in no time at all.
How's about spending the money on some decent sex education and youth projects instead where it will actually do some good?
 
It's ridiculous, it's not just child porn it transpires.
It's ANYTHING the government deems inappropriate, I'm not a child, I don't need to be told what is and is not appropriate. Nor do I wish to be labelled a pervert when I go to opt out of a filtering service because things I look at contain adult content (not even porn - discussion about controversial news or even beer could be considered adult content).
Ultimately who are the government to deem what is and is not appropriate?

And then it leads me to think, just as what happened in Denmark, they will begin to slowly change the law to block other things without our permission. Slowly changing the law, slowly manipulating us into an Orwellian dictatorship.

This is a free country, not a communist state, we can make our own decisions. We shouldn't have to opt out of something the vast majority of society won't want, in what realm is that considered democracy?

And who gets to pay for this filtering system, us and the ISP's. We have to pay more just so the government can dictate what we can look at?

If parents actually gave a crap, they'd install one of the hundreds of free internet filters out there already. And many do.
 
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sajtion said:
i am in favour of this and think porn should be banned altogether. the kind of stuff kids and even young adults are exposed is terrible. it can totally mess up the mind. i say good riddance to pornography. i think this society has gone bonkus judging by all the amateur things people post online. yuck
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Is that you, Ned Flanders ?
 
Hold off the tinfoil just yet :p, I'd say squeezing in unjustified government control into the internet is realistic enough to retain immunity to prime turkey oven wrapping material.
 
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