Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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Burned_Alive said:
Why would you bench him or put him in the reserves? He's got 3 years left on his contract... you play him.
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If he asks for a transfer and doesn't get one, you think it will stop there? You think Suarez would go "fair play" and get on with it. Not a hope in hell. I don't think it would even be as nice an amicable as the Tevez situation :D. His price will only then come down if by some miracle you manage to keep him for 2 more years.

If a player really want's to go is there any point in keeping them.

Sadly players have far too much power to get what they want.
 
Has a team ever played hardball with a player and won them over so they stayed for many happy years?

Ronaldo clearly had an agreement with United where he shut the **** up and they let him go in 12 months. Other than that I can't think of any.

City managed to keep Tevez for a bit but ended up with a player that wasn't anywhere near as good as he was pre fallout and a much lower fee.

I think in reality Liverpool would be happy with 40m but everyone expected real madrid to come in for him. 40 million to Arsenal puts them in a really tough spot.
 
Liverpool will have to sell for 40m.

His demeanour yesterday was so bad, you just cannot afford to have an influence like that around the club. I kind of feel sorry for the misguided fans as well, who take to the internet with statements such as "Let him rot in the reserves".

His yearly salary is something like nearly £7m. £40m and an available wage of £7m a year could get Liverpool a high quality player who wants to play for them. Not top level. No top level player wants a club with no CL football unless they're guaranteed stupid money, which, if I remember rightly was the case at the dawn of the Abramovich era,
 
anticonscience said:
If LFC play hardball, he will get his lawyers involved. FACHT!
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interesting little article from the chap who represented ashley cole in todays telegraph about how the clause may have been lost in translation

also this little nugget

Robin van Persie's pre-season injury niggle is down to 'dinosaur coaching' methods, says Dutch fitness expert
David Moyes’s pre-season handling of Robin van Persie has been called into question by a Dutch fitness specialist who has worked with several leading clubs and was assistant to the late Wales manager Gary Speed.

Van Persie was withdrawn at half-time during United’s friendly in Japan on Tuesday because he had experienced tightness in a thigh.
Moyes said the substitution was pre*cautionary and that he expected the striker to be fine, but the new Manchester United manager was still subjected to stinging criticism from Raymond Verheijen, who has worked with Barcelona, Chelsea and Manchester City among others and has a reputation for being outspoken.
Writing on his Twitter account, Verheijin noted that Moyes had previously said United had ‘overtrained’ Van Persie at the start of pre-season.
He wrote: “In Sydney Moyes said: ‘We’ve overtrained Robin this week to build up his fitness’. [In Japan] he picked up muscle injury. It really makes you wonder how these prehistoric training methods can still take place at the highest level.
"The only way to solve this problem in Jurassic Park is to improve education of these dinosaur coaches, fitness clowns & scientific cowboys.

"All over the world in pre-season you see the pattern ‘overtraining-fatigue-injuries’. Always avoid accumulation of fatigue in pre-season.
"But as long as most dinosaurs are still in denial & ignore how things develop in other countries, nothing will ever change in Jurassic Park. Obviously, players like RVP should learn to protect themselves better against ‘overtraining’ & ‘punishing training’.”
Moyes admits he will be forced to rely on Ryan Giggs to guide him through the early stages of United’s Champions League campaign after admitting he has much to learn about the competition.
Moyes, who suffered a 4-2 aggregate defeat with Everton against Villarreal in the 2005-06 qualifying stages, will experience the Champions League proper for the first time as a manager when United begin their group stage fixtures in September.
Having taken charge of Everton on 26 occasions in Europe, Moyes was unable to go beyond the last 16 of the Uefa Cup or Europa League, but he takes charge of United with the club aiming to build a squad capable of winning the European Cup for a fourth time.
But while conceding that he will go into the Champions League as a relative rookie this season, Moyes believes that player-coach Giggs, who has more than 150 European appearances to his name, will be a crucial sounding board during the group stages.
“For me, the Champions League will be a thrill, but I’m going to have to learn a lot quickly,” Moyes said. “That’s where I’m looking to the likes of Ryan Giggs and a few players around me for the things which I need to be told about.
“It’s not all about the playing side of it – I’ve been in the Champions League [qualifiers], watched loads of games and managed in the Europa League – everybody has to start somewhere.”
With efforts continuing at United to lure Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas to Old Trafford, Moyes, in Osaka ahead of Friday’s friendly in Japan, remains hopeful of adding to the squad he inherited from Sir Alex Ferguson before the start of the season.
But having admitted that he must win a trophy quickly, Moyes is determined to add to the club’s history of success in Europe.
“The history of this club is immersed in Europe and I think to win one of the big European tournaments would always been seen as something special,” Moyes said.
“Winning your own domestic league is very important, but winning the Champions League has become very important, for the country and Premier League as well.
“I think the year when Manchester United and Chelsea played in the final, everyone connected to football in this country stuck their chest out.
“It was the German teams this year, in the past it’s been the Spanish teams. I genuinely think there’s a swell of pride from our country that we want the British teams to do really well.
“But I’ve got to say I’m really looking forward to it and hopefully we can do well this season and I do think it’s a much more open competition than it has been in the past.
“Even from the draw – if you don’t get a particularly good draw it can become a struggle whichever part of the world you’re playing in now.”
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gwaaaaaaaan moyes
 
cm1179 said:
murmurs that soldado has left valencia. whether he is coming to spurs only time will tell :D
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I do hope so - 6m euros in agents fees were the latest sticking point I heard.

Have heard they've taken pictures/sales guff with him out of their store though
 
dannyjo22 said:
If he asks for a transfer and doesn't get one, you think it will stop there? You think Suarez would go "fair play" and get on with it. Not a hope in hell. I don't think it would even be as nice an amicable as the Tevez situation :D. His price will only then come down if by some miracle you manage to keep him for 2 more years.

If a player really want's to go is there any point in keeping them.

Sadly players have far too much power to get what they want.
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I think that if we kept him he would say "fair play" and get on with it to be honest. If you play the player, what's he going to do? If he doesn't try, who's going to buy him and play him in the CL further down the line?

Personally, I can see us doing what Arsenal did with Cesc - we'll get another year out of him, and if he's still not happy (ie if we're not in the CL) we'll let him go. Obviously the risk is him having a less good season and declining in value.

To be honest, if we sold him for £40m to Arsenal I wouldn't be drastically upset. While him and Coutinho are our only "game-changers", he doesn't really suit our style of football, and is immensely frustrating.
 
robfosters said:
Liverpool will have to sell for 40m.

His demeanour yesterday was so bad, you just cannot afford to have an influence like that around the club. I kind of feel sorry for the misguided fans as well, who take to the internet with statements such as "Let him rot in the reserves".
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No they don't, what makes you come out with this garbage?

No one has said let him rot in the reserves, they say play him as he needs to do play at the WC and he just loves playing footy and is super competitive.
 
StooM said:
I do hope so - 6m euros in agents fees were the latest sticking point I heard.

Have heard they've taken pictures/sales guff with him out of their store though
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that's what's started the murmur's coupled with it not being dead in the water

we'll clutch onto anything :o
 
manic111 said:
Personally, I can see us doing what Arsenal did with Cesc - we'll get another year out of him, and if he's still not happy (ie if we're not in the CL) we'll let him go. Obviously the risk is him having a less good season and declining in value.
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He doesn't want to play for us anymore, he did exactly the same thing with his 1st european club Groningen when moving to Ajax. Those people thinking he will go all nicey nice and stick with us for another year are deluding themselves.
 
cm1179 said:
that's what's started the murmur's coupled with it not being dead in the water

we'll clutch onto anything :o
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:D

Spurs have left it so long to get a striker that the fans are getting very excited about a very overpriced Soldado.
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Its a bit steep, but wouldnt say overpriced if he continues banging in 20+ goals a season
 
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