Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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Can take an educated guess though, Arsenal are saying they have activated a release clause for Suarez, Liverpool are denying it and demanding more money, Suarez is sitting quietly saying the FA can work it out...

Pretty sure the sensible conclusion is there is a badly worded £40m release clause in his contract that Liverpool are trying to get out of/get £50m from and everyone else is waiting for the dust to settle.

Arsenal and Suarez have said stuff?
 
Can take an educated guess though, Arsenal are saying they have activated a release clause for Suarez, Liverpool are denying it and demanding more money, Suarez is sitting quietly saying the FA can work it out...

Pretty sure the sensible conclusion is there is a badly worded £40m release clause in his contract that Liverpool are trying to get out of/get £50m from and everyone else is waiting for the dust to settle.

Actually, the experts (real educated guess, rather than this uneducated educated guess) say Liverpool are probably in the right and its likely Suarez's agent that has it wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ts-at-confusion-from-Uruguayans-advisers.html

Plus, what do Arsenal know about any release clause? They shouldnt have spoken to the player, agent or seen any contract.
 
read today's telegraph, arsenal fans. rodgers is getting catty and saying a move to arsenal would be a 'step down' and doesn't calculate :p

i'm starting to like the bloke
Rodgers is a **** though. He's inherited the same thinking of a lot of other managers, that just because the team used to be great (and it did), that they are still the huge draw they used to be. Liverpool are a shadow of their former selves at the moment, who didn't even make the Europa League spots. Arsenal are in the Champions League again. I can understand why Suarez would want to go there. Still makes him a **** though, considering his supposed reasons for leaving involved the press in this country.
 
Actually, the experts (real educated guess, rather than this uneducated educated guess) say Liverpool are probably in the right and its likely Suarez's agent that has it wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ts-at-confusion-from-Uruguayans-advisers.html

Plus, what do Arsenal know about any release clause? They shouldnt have spoken to the player, agent or seen any contract.

It would be very naive to think that this is actually true and football clubs stick to it.

It's a constant occurrence.
 
Rodgers is a **** though. He's inherited the same thinking of a lot of other managers, that just because the team used to be great (and it did), that they are still the huge draw they used to be. Liverpool are a shadow of their former selves at the moment, who didn't even make the Europa League spots. Arsenal are in the Champions League again. I can understand why Suarez would want to go there. Still makes him a **** though, considering his supposed reasons for leaving involved the press in this country.

Or, Rodgers is saying that in an attempt to persuade Suarez to stay?! He's not an idiot, he's said himself in the past where the club stands and that getting it back to former glories will be a big ask.
 
read today's telegraph, arsenal fans. rodgers is getting catty and saying a move to arsenal would be a 'step down' and doesn't calculate :p

i'm starting to like the bloke

LOL that rich coming from a Spurs supporter;):p.

Anyhow this whole Suarez to Arsenal move is becoming a bit messy now, Ayre has said he is not for sale, Arsenal want him but Suarez wants out. So i do wonder what exactly is going to happen if Liverpool put their foot down and say no not a chance you are moving to Arsenal.

As for Rodgers??...he knows if Suarez comes to Arsenal, it makes us a lot stronger and there isnt a chance in hell they will be able to catch Arsenal.

City still looking to spend, spent £90mill already but they want more players :/...they might as well join in the Suarez race as well:p
 
It would be very naive to think that this is actually true and football clubs stick to it.

It's a constant occurrence.

Absolutely but it's usually impossible to prove that it's happened. Arsenal will have a hard time convincing people that there bid was coincidentally £1 more than the amount of this clause.

As others have mentioned, we got done for the same thing when we signed Ziege years ago. We bid the exact amount of his clause in his deal.
 
I guess Liverpool taking any action will depend heavily on whether Suarez actually moves to Arsenal or not. If he stay I imagine we wont want to be taking action against our own player!
 
Suarez is worth the money in my eyes.

Many people are speculating that we could be a stepping stone for him to Madrid. Well, tbh, I don't mind if we are.

The transfer market is getting crazier and crazier. Suarez could come to us, have a couple of good seasons, 20+ goals, and then move on. In the 2 years with us, he could have bought the team on a lot to the point where they are a force again and attracting top players easier. He may even have helped bring silverware to the Emirates.

He would still only be 28. I reckon Arsenal could get their money back on him or more, such is the craziness that the transfer market is expanding at. He may not even want to leave if we are challenging again.
 
I guess Liverpool taking any action will depend heavily on whether Suarez actually moves to Arsenal or not. If he stay I imagine we wont want to be taking action against our own player!

Any action would be against Arsenal, not nessessarily "our" player. And I would regardless.

It's about time we stopped being a soft touch, **** em all :D
 
I don't think Reina's loan to Napoli has officially been completed however Rodgers has confirmed it and the reasons why it's come about - as most of us knew already, Reina was meant to join Barca this summer so the club acted first in replacing him with Mignolet:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/140792-rodgers-on-pepe-reina-loan-move

I guess Liverpool taking any action will depend heavily on whether Suarez actually moves to Arsenal or not. If he stay I imagine we wont want to be taking action against our own player!

I guess any action would be taken against Arsenal and his agent, not him.
 
Actually, the experts (real educated guess, rather than this uneducated educated guess) say Liverpool are probably in the right and its likely Suarez's agent that has it wrong.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ts-at-confusion-from-Uruguayans-advisers.html

Plus, what do Arsenal know about any release clause? They shouldnt have spoken to the player, agent or seen any contract.

That isn't what that link says at all, it simple states that the clause could be anything.

The simple fact is there is little to no reason for a player to be happy with being allowed to talk earlier than in their last season... literally no reason that is useful at all. They've clearly asked for a release clause and the assumption would be that Liverpool either made a mistake(sure ;) ) which meant the wording is a little off and has a little leeway to allow for talking but not accepting the bid.

Ultimately release clauses are very common now and there is not a single reason for a player to ask for a "please let me talk to a club above a certain fee" clause, no player would ever ask for that, while most would ask for a release clause. Either Liverpool are purposefully interpreting a common clause incorrectly, or they misled the player/agent into signing an absurdly worded version of a clause which allows them a way out.

Common sense lets us know what the deal is, because again there is simply no reason to agree to a stupid ass clause that doesn't help the player in any way at all.
 
Rodgers is a **** though. He's inherited the same thinking of a lot of other managers, that just because the team used to be great (and it did), that they are still the huge draw they used to be. Liverpool are a shadow of their former selves at the moment, who didn't even make the Europa League spots. Arsenal are in the Champions League again. I can understand why Suarez would want to go there. Still makes him a **** though, considering his supposed reasons for leaving involved the press in this country.

i concur. rodgers jumped on the hillsbrough bandwagon (not trying to sound crass but it's the best way i could put it) and the ''history of the club''. that's what it is, history. i can't see liverpool being a top 4 team again in an incredibly long time. take suarez and gerrard out of the equation and top 6 will be a struggle.
 
Suarez is worth the money in my eyes.

Many people are speculating that we could be a stepping stone for him to Madrid. Well, tbh, I don't mind if we are.

The transfer market is getting crazier and crazier. Suarez could come to us, have a couple of good seasons, 20+ goals, and then move on. In the 2 years with us, he could have bought the team on a lot to the point where they are a force again and attracting top players easier. He may even have helped bring silverware to the Emirates.

He would still only be 28. I reckon Arsenal could get their money back on him or more, such is the craziness that the transfer market is expanding at. He may not even want to leave if we are challenging again.

it's not Arsenal per say he wants to play for, if someone comes in with a bid we approve of, he isn't going to reject that in the hopes he gets a move to you. its CL football he wants. He wants to play in Spain for RM.

RM don't want to pay 50 mill for him now, they certainly aren't going to want to pay 70, 80, 90 million for him next season/season after that. If he has any sesnse, staying with us is his best hope of a move next season.
 
Any action would be against Arsenal, not nessessarily "our" player. And I would regardless.

It's about time we stopped being a soft touch, **** em all :D

I would imagine it would be against the agent/player actually. Its in their interest to leak the clause value, the fact is it was heavily publicised. If no press report a buy out clause and the club gets it on the dot... that is one thing, when the press widely report a clause for weeks/months, then a club has 30-35mil rejected, everyone says there is a 40mil clause, why would your next bid be over 40mil + tiny amount?

I can't remember what happened with Phil Jones, from what I recall Arsenal bid something like 10mil, maybe 6 months earlier but didn't activate the release clause and gave up. Did Utd get it to the penny without the clause being talked about in the media till afterwards? I can't remember what happened in the end there either, there were some angry words said, did Utd end up throwing them a couple mil extra or something?
 
i concur. rodgers jumped on the hillsbrough bandwagon

What on earth are you talking about? I can't recall Rodgers being overly vocal about Hillsborough. He would have no doubt spoke about it but everybody at Liverpool has in the last year considering what happened last year.
 
I would imagine it would be against the agent/player actually. Its in their interest to leak the clause value, the fact is it was heavily publicised. If no press report a buy out clause and the club gets it on the dot... that is one thing, when the press widely report a clause for weeks/months, then a club has 30-35mil rejected, everyone says there is a 40mil clause, why would your next bid be over 40mil + tiny amount?

When Boro brought action re Zeige's move it was against us, not the player/agent.

Since when do clubs bid xxx amount plus a pound? Never, you've clearly been informed by his agent of the clause (whatever it is).

Common sense lets us know what the deal is, because again there is simply no reason to agree to a stupid ass clause that doesn't help the player in any way at all.

Or as said in the article, Suarez/his agent have interpreted it as being similar to a spanish clause.
 
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i concur. rodgers jumped on the hillsbrough bandwagon (not trying to sound crass but it's the best way i could put it) and the ''history of the club''. that's what it is, history. i can't see liverpool being a top 4 team again in an incredibly long time. take suarez and gerrard out of the equation and top 6 will be a struggle.

:confused:

If you're trying to attract players to the club, and the most attractive thing about the club is the club's history, surely you'll promote it as much as possible?!

It doesn't make you a **** for doing so!
 
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