EVGA GTX 570 Heat Troubles

TheSgtDK · 8 Jun 2013 at 02:22

Idles at 45-49c gets up to 93c in parts of Far Cry 3 and hot enough to put the fan on full in everything else.

I've took it apart, dusted it, put new paste on twice (IC Diamond 24 and Noctua NT-H1) and it made absolutely no difference at all.

I wouldn't mind if it didn't sound like a hair dryer but i don't use headphones and a lot of the time play on the big screen with an xbox pad.

Outside of binning it for something new i'm not sure what to do, anyone got any ideas?

humbug · 8 Jun 2013 at 02:32

TheSgtDK said:
Idles at 45-49c gets up to 93c in parts of Far Cry 3 and hot enough to put the fan on full in everything else.

I've took it apart, dusted it, put new paste on twice (IC Diamond 24 and Noctua NT-H1) and it made absolutely no difference at all.

I wouldn't mind if it didn't sound like a hair dryer but i don't use headphones and a lot of the time play on the big screen with an xbox pad.

Outside of binning it for something new i'm not sure what to do, anyone got any ideas?

Farcry 3 is very hard on GPU's, Crysis 3 which is also hard on GPU's I get 69c, usual games like BF3 just 65c.

Farcry 3, 74c, nothing else gets that high, all on this GPU

Its normal but your temps are vey high....

OrWolf · 8 Jun 2013 at 10:12

Those are very high max temps.
What drivers are you using? I have had issues with my 570 and the 314.07 & 314.22 drivers. Max Temps went up by 20 degrees with the 314.07, and the fan profile went totally screwy with 314.22. Also got random hang ups in game with both sets. The latest drivers, 320.18, cured the problems.

arc@css · 8 Jun 2013 at 12:44

If you're satisfied with the fps it delivers, I'd just look for a second hand cooler so it won't noisey when gaming. The temps are high, but I wouldn't necessarily worry about it...unless they start creeping up. Are the temps in the 90's for all games?

TheSgtDK · 8 Jun 2013 at 21:51

I'm using the latest drivers. 320.18

arc@css said:
If you're satisfied with the fps it delivers, I'd just look for a second hand cooler so it won't noisey when gaming. The temps are high, but I wouln't necessarily worry about it...unless they start creeping up. Are the temps in the 90's for all games?

Not every game, they hover around 80-85c in most games and a little lower in League of Legends.

I think if i'm going to fork out money then i might may get something new.

arc@css · 8 Jun 2013 at 22:12

80-85 is fine.

Jakus · 9 Jun 2013 at 00:39

TheSgtDK said:
I'm using the latest drivers. 320.18

Not every game, they hover around 80-85c in most games and a little lower in League of Legends.

I think if i'm going to fork out money then i might may get something new.

The Latest drivers might not be the best choice for fermi cards, people have had melt downs with them.
If all is well with the cooler and you are not overvolting/clocking it, those temps are due to insufficient case cooling.
70% fan should hold it in the 70c range with anything, much more fan speed than that will not proportionally drop temps as it's inefficient without exhaust mods.

arc@css · 9 Jun 2013 at 00:47

Try the 320.00 driver.

Sycho · 9 Jun 2013 at 00:56

Dont worry about it unless games start crashing or pc lock ups with bsods.

Nvidia cards can even run at 100c for years and be fine.

Pretty wierd having those temps in a HAF-X too.

spixelspixel · 9 Jun 2013 at 01:25

There's a chance the TIM below the heat spreader has dried up, nvidia had some issues with this before on the 4 series. People removed it, put new thermal paste and it dropped the temps by loads.

I'm not sure if its possible on the 570 to remove it though, try giving it a couple of twists.

Edit - it is possible. These threads might be helpful

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=223294

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156145/official-guide-modifying-removing-nvidia-gpu-heat-spreader-ihs

humbug · 10 Jun 2013 at 10:01

TheSgtDK said:
I'm using the latest drivers. 320.18

Not every game, they hover around 80-85c in most games and a little lower in League of Legends.

I think if i'm going to fork out money then i might may get something new.

You might like to read this http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18518818

EVGAdominik · 10 Jun 2013 at 13:01

Hi,

generally EVGA do allow to remove the cooler and change the TIM, this will not void the warranty! After a while it can be possible that the TIM dried up and need to get replaced, I would also suggest to replace it with a non conductive high quality one and have a look, normally the temps should go back to normal 80s after this. Usually when the card is faulty the temps go crazy till the system shuts down. When you have removed the cooler I would also suggest to clean the heatsink inside to make sure the airflow in the card is well.

Cheers

Dominik

Stratosphere83 · 26 Jul 2013 at 20:04

I have the Asus GTX 570 running at stock 742/1900 clocks with voltage at 0.963mV.

Recently my temps have also been causing me some concern.

ARMA 3 on very high settings causes the temp to sit around 97-98C, that’s with an 85% fan speed.

I cleaned the card today removed the thermal paste (which had dried up) and applied Arctic MX-4. Temps have reduced to around 85-95C but I do still see 97C on occasion.
Idle temps are 60C.
Does this sound a little high as the general load temps for this card should be around 80-85C.

Jakus · 27 Jul 2013 at 01:25

Stratosphere83 said:
I have the Asus GTX 570 running at stock 742/1900 clocks with voltage at 0.963mV.

Recently my temps have also been causing me some concern.

ARMA 3 on very high settings causes the temp to sit around 97-98C, that’s with an 85% fan speed.

I cleaned the card today removed the thermal paste (which had dried up) and applied Arctic MX-4. Temps have reduced to around 85-95C but I do still see 97C on occasion.
Idle temps are 60C.
Does this sound a little high as the general load temps for this card should be around 80-85C.

What do you want people to tell you ?...because it sounds like you have wrecked your card.
With reasonable case cooling and the fan at 85% those cards will stay below 70c at max load, If you have good case cooling now then it sounds like you have cooked the paste under the GPU heat spreader.

I do have some sympathy because Nvidia has a stupid fan curve (real joke) which does not ramp up the fan speed from idle speeds until into the 80's, so it would be possible to see 90c on auto fan so unless monitored many would be blissfully unaware they are cooking the card.

sieze2 · 27 Jul 2013 at 08:29

Jakus said:
What do you want people to tell you ?...because it sounds like you have wrecked your card.
With reasonable case cooling and the fan at 85% those cards will stay below 70c at max load, If you have good case cooling now then it sounds like you have cooked the paste under the GPU heat spreader.

I do have some sympathy because Nvidia has a stupid fan curve (real joke) which does not ramp up the fan speed from idle speeds until into the 80's, so it would be possible to see 90c on auto fan so unless monitored many would be blissfully unaware they are cooking the card.

What a load of crap. He has not wrecked his card at all, its still working fine??? Maybe your definition of wrecked is different to the rest of us :rolleyes:

Some cards do run hotter than others. You have x3 options. Sell it and get another. Change the cooler. Or ignor it. These chips are designed to run hot. If you are within the operating temperature limits don't worry about it (unless the noise bothers you in which case see option 1 and 2.)

Stratosphere83 · 27 Jul 2013 at 11:31

Jakus said:
What do you want people to tell you ?...because it sounds like you have wrecked your card.

The card is working fine and always has, by posting my experiences with load temps it may help others experiencing higher than usual values.

Cleaning the dust from the vapour chamber and reapplying thermal paste to achieve a 5-7C drop is certainly not what I would consider wrecking a card and prior to this the card has been very well cared for in a case with excellent ventilation.

It’s worth noting that while reaching 97C in ARMA 3 (using EVGA Precision X and RivaTuner Stats to monitor). The GPU usage is almost always at 99% whereas previous games haven’t taxed the card as much.
I do agree with Jakus that the NVidia fan curve is very conservative.

Thanks for your advice sieze2. These cards certainly do run hot and from other threads do seem to vary in their cooling ability.

Jakus · 27 Jul 2013 at 12:22

sieze2 said:
What a load of crap. He has not wrecked his card at all, its still working fine??? Maybe your definition of wrecked is different to the rest of us

Some cards do run hotter than others. You have x3 options. Sell it and get another. Change the cooler. Or ignor it. These chips are designed to run hot. If you are within the operating temperature limits don't worry about it (unless the noise bothers you in which case see option 1 and 2.)

Load of **** eh !, when you are looking at possibly having to cut off the heat spreader I would say things have gone to far. I run one of these cards and the load temps are not much more than our friends IDLE temp and that's not with 85% fan. (so unless op tells us it's in a small fanless case I think that's a fair assessment)
Suggesting he sell it on to some poor unsuspecting is just not ethical.. an email to the manufacturer would be the sensible thing to do first.

Stratosphere83 · 27 Jul 2013 at 12:46

I think what sieze2 means is I haven’t done anything specific to the card that would be considered wrecking it. I do agree however that having to reapply thermal compound to the heat spreader is something the consumer shouldn’t need to do. It wasn’t actually that dusty inside either.

Jakus said:
I run one of these cards and the load temps are not much more than our friends IDLE temp and that's not with 85% fan..

Thanks for posting this, it more than confirms my temps are totally out for this card and something is wrong. Current ambient room temp is 23C, GFX card idle temp 65C Fan speed (Auto) 50%.

My case is a Lian Li PC-7FNW. 1x 140mm front fan 1x 120mm rear fan. Case temp 38C.

If Asus provide a 3 year warranty and they are ok with me having replaced the thermal compound then I’ll give them a call.

GoogalyMoogaly · 27 Jul 2013 at 12:54

I don't have my reference Palit 570 any more (sold it, it didn't break) but I recall idle temps being in the mid 30s and if I recall while gaming temps were around the 70ºC mark. Although to be fair I don't think the games I was playing on it were pushing the GPU to the sort of levels ARMA 3 would.

EDIT:
As for options, a 3rd party cooler may help?
Or you could try watercooling.

Jakus · 27 Jul 2013 at 12:54

Stratosphere83 said:
The card is working fine and always has, by posting my experiences with load temps it may help others experiencing higher than usual values.

Cleaning the dust from the vapour chamber and reapplying thermal paste to achieve a 5-7C drop is certainly not what I would consider wrecking a card and prior to this the card has been very well cared for in a case with excellent ventilation.

It’s worth noting that while reaching 97C in ARMA 3 (using EVGA Precision X and RivaTuner Stats to monitor). The GPU usage is almost always at 99% whereas previous games haven’t taxed the card as much.
I do agree with Jakus that the NVidia fan curve is very conservative.

Thanks for your advice sieze2. These cards certainly do run hot and from other threads do seem to vary in their cooling ability.

The 480's ran silly hot 90'c but 570/580 were much better and could be almost sensible with a little fan curve.
No one said you wrecked the card by re applying the TIM, it's the fact that prolonged high temps will dry out the TIM under the heat spreader, just based on your very high idle temps and the fact I replaced the original paste on a 570 earlier in the year and it did not make 1 degree off difference brings me to that conclusion.

Yeah, I think you should have given a little more info or just asked the question, we always get arguments over what is too hot for electronics/GFX cards, read everything you can and make your mind up

other post got a bit delayed as I was dragged away on a phone call, mid stream