ARPGs (Diablo Clones!)

Caporegime
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I'm a big Diablo 1 fan. D2 was good too but I probably prefer the dungeon grinding of D1, honestly. Also loved the class overlap, with warriors and rogues also being able to use the same spells the mage could.

Anyway, recently bought Torchlight II in the Steam sale. Have put in a few hours and got to level 30 on normal difficulty. Not been overly impressed, really. It seems pitifully easy for starters. My engineer (melee character) found a 20% life-steal item early on, and is un-killable so long as I keep hitting things. I've died once the whole time due to extreme carelessness. And in the first 20 levels or so I don't think I even used a potion...

My other problem with Torchlite II is that there is very little excitement in finding magic items. They drop off every second monster, and it becomes almost a chore to pick them all up and look at them. The item progression seems wonky too, I've had many level 30 items drop with *much* worse stats than level 15 stuff.

I guess my final gripe with Torchlight II is that I've only upgraded the very first skill the engineer comes with, because all the later ones seem to do very similar things, and the 1st one is hugely powerful anyhow. The skill trees seem almost redundant. There are some passives which I've invested in, because that way there are less buttons to click :p But basically I've used one single skill to beat the game up to level 30. Imagine how repetitive that is!

Moving on to other games, I've yet to try Path of Exile, or Titan Quest, and I think I ought to put down Torchlight II and give them a whirl instead.

PS, does anyone know where you can get Diablo 3 for less than £35? Blizzard must be making $$$ off that game, as it hasn't had a price drop in the two years it's been out.
 
May I ask what difficulty you played on? Oh, I see you posted you played on normal... Surely if you wanted it to be hard you'd play on hard???
 
Diablo III is still worth the money imo, however it's not a patch on the previous games but it is fun.

If your looking for some decent ARPG's have a look at the brilliant new 'titan quest' successor Grim Dawn (In Alpha atm) or Marvel Heroes (free to play).
 
May I ask what difficulty you played on? Oh, I see you posted you played on normal... Surely if you wanted it to be hard you'd play on hard???

How am I supposed to know on my first play-through, what difficulty to select? I'm not psychic :p In most games I choose "Normal" for the first time as it's supposed to be balanced.

But I think you are right, I should probably re-start on a harder difficulty with another class. The engineer is steam-rolling Normal difficulty so bad it's like the game is playing itself.
 
PS, does anyone know where you can get Diablo 3 for less than £35? Blizzard must be making $$$ off that game, as it hasn't had a price drop in the two years it's been out.

I know time flies when you're having fun but D3 only came out last year, May 2012.

Blockbuster have it for £24.97 at the moment, with free delivery.
 
How am I supposed to know on my first play-through, what difficulty to select? I'm not psychic :p In most games I choose "Normal" for the first time as it's supposed to be balanced.

But I think you are right, I should probably re-start on a harder difficulty with another class. The engineer is steam-rolling Normal difficulty so bad it's like the game is playing itself.

Hardest. Berserker. Have fun. ;)
 
Titan Quest: Immortal Throne - by far my favorite ARPG - although Grim Dawn is showing some potential - needs a lot more polish but I guess that's why it's in Alpha! :D
 
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