Wish to try watercooling - 900d - questions

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Hey guys

Long time reader, first time poster in this section of the forum.

So my friend - who shall remain nameless - is really pushing me to water cool my next super-build. And I am easily convinced...

Please be gentle and offer advice on loop etc

Case: Corsair 900D
Gcards: 2 x 780s
CPU and MOBO: 3930k and ASUS RIVE

... yes, the same system I sold a while ago haha

Right so watercooling items

2 x XSPC Razor GTX Titan GPU Waterblock **GTX 780 COMPATIBLE**
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-196-XS

SLI connector flow thingy
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-190-XS&groupid=962&catid=1529&subcat=2267

1 x XSPC D5 Vario with front cover
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-142-XS

Is this all that is needed for the pump?

Radiators
Bottom - 4 x 120mm
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-029-BX

Top - 3 x 120mm
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-027-BX&groupid=962&catid=1523&subcat=1526

Both chosen because of their performance
Can I get thicker radiators? Worth it

Res - tube baby!
EX-RES X3 250
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-314-EK&groupid=962&catid=2133

CPU Block - love the reviews and look of this
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-069-XS&groupid=962&catid=1519

So - questions

1. Loop order as follows? Ideally I only want one loop
PUMP -> 3930k -> top 360 rad -> gpus series -> bottom 480 rad -> tube res

2. Is the pump chosen powerful enough for this loop? What else do I need for the pump?

3. What tubing and connectors would be recommended?

X. Is it worth going 4770k rather then 3930k - I probably won't be folding or anything... just hardcore gaming?

Thanks in advance
 
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Id change the gfx blocks the xspc units dont have active vrm cooling I believe, get something by aquatuning they look stunning imo

Id also look at a different pump setup with an aftermarket top to increase flow
 
I also have a 900D.

I would go for a 480 Rad top and bottom if your not going to use the top 2 drive bays.

Also you can go 60mm thick rad on the top with push pull config. But the top mobo. power socket will be tight.

D5 pump is more than capable.

Im using Primochill advanced tubing. Mayhems getting good results from his dye's and also mine has yet to suffer any cloudiness.
 
Itll be a nightmare bleeding the air out without a res, i dont use a res but i only have one gpu and i set the system up GPU>CPU>top Rad>Pump> bottom rad, so the air catches in the top rad, then i flip the case work it out into the second rad, then out of my fill port right next to the bottom rad.

And i used to run 2 gpus, 2 mosfet blocks, 2 Bridge blocks, 4 ram blocks with just a d5 and it worked fine, so im sure 2gpus and a cpu will run fine also.
 
You're looking at pretty much exactly what I bought last week. The 900D is awesome but massive. It's like 4feet tall and when I say huge I mean huge. You can literally get in it. Tonnes of room. I found fitting top rad was a little fiddly, juggling four fans while balancing a 480mm rad while trying to line up the screws but it just needed some patience.

Rad is very good, I went for the AX480. As for pump, I chose the dual bay D5 reservoir and mounted a D5 in it. Very easy to install and fill etc. looks great as well. I got XSPC tube fittings and dye cos I'm the sort of knob who likes all the brands to match. Some weird OCD thing I imagine but, quality seems good although I'm not very experienced in water cooling.

One thing though, the Raystorm. Granted I bought my block second hand but this is not an excuse. Three of the screws threads have stripped between me putting it all together Thursday. Running it Friday and deciding I need more HTC and trying to reassemble Saturday. I've ordered some new screws but its been a monumental pain in the arse not having my computer since Friday and I won't have it till Tuesday now. The threads seem very weak and the screws are only just long enough. You have to press hard back and front to get them to bite and do up. Totally unnecessary when you then have winders to actually apply pressure. Another millimetre of thread would have prevented the threads stripping and make installation much easier.
 
Th3M8dH8tt3r said:
You're looking at pretty much exactly what I bought last week. The 900D is awesome but massive. It's like 4feet tall and when I say huge I mean huge. You can literally get in it. Tonnes of room. I found fitting top rad was a little fiddly, juggling four fans while balancing a 480mm rad while trying to line up the screws but it just needed some patience.

Rad is very good, I went for the AX480. As for pump, I chose the dual bay D5 reservoir and mounted a D5 in it. Very easy to install and fill etc. looks great as well. I got XSPC tube fittings and dye cos I'm the sort of knob who likes all the brands to match. Some weird OCD thing I imagine but, quality seems good although I'm not very experienced in water cooling.

One thing though, the Raystorm. Granted I bought my block second hand but this is not an excuse. Three of the screws threads have stripped between me putting it all together Thursday. Running it Friday and deciding I need more HTC and trying to reassemble Saturday. I've ordered some new screws but its been a monumental pain in the arse not having my computer since Friday and I won't have it till Tuesday now. The threads seem very weak and the screws are only just long enough. You have to press hard back and front to get them to bite and do up. Totally unnecessary when you then have winders to actually apply pressure. Another millimetre of thread would have prevented the threads stripping and make installation much easier.
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Thanks for the info mate. I'd love to see your build if you haven't already posted it
 
BaDBoY_uK said:
Thanks for the info mate. I'd love to see your build if you haven't already posted it
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No problem. It'll be finished entirely by this time next week. I have two Asus Direct CUII GTX780s arriving this week, and an EVGA one that'll I'll be selling, I've picked up the two Asus for £800 and the EVGA wasn't too expensive, seems to a be a flurry of cheap GTX780s out their which is very bizarre.

XSPC do do GTX780 branded waterblocks now as well.

I'll let you know how I get on with the new screws for the waterblock on the CPU. Just wish they'd made the threads 1mm longer.
 
stuie said:
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Id change the gfx blocks the xspc units dont have active vrm cooling I believe, get something by aquatuning they look stunning imo

Id also look at a different pump setup with an aftermarket top to increase flow
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I'm not trying to be rude here so if it comes across that way its poor phrasing, but if you actually look at the front/back waterblock pictures on the product page he linked you can see that the XSPC do in fact have active vrm cooling.
 
Seem like pretty good blocks. My CPU block is good, before the screws died. I think that's just it's used a lot and may have been abused a little. This is an admission you lot are going to destroy me for but, running Prime95 at 1.5v with all my fans on low speed, the XSPC block and loop kept temps at 65 degrees. That was with the block pipes the WRONG WAY ROUND!!!! Was clearly not concentrating when I attached the res pipes, was asking myself why the pipes were crossed over. For me though, yes it's a retarded thing to do but shows these blocks are genuinely good if they can do that even when performance is seriously compromised..which back to front pipes does according to XSPC.

It was on my Facebook I saw a thing about them being 780 blocks now but yet to see anything in the XSPC store. May need to wait for a bit to get GPU blocks.
 
BaDBoY_uK said:
Ah good, I did wish to use them, so will stick with that GPU block
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Meant to post yesterday, XPSC Titan blocks do have vrm cooling. :)

Also the flow bridge you linked - I think you have selected the the wrong one.

I use the same blocks and I used 2 of those flow bridges for trisli.

If I'm not mistaken you need this one - as I presume you will be using the 1st and 3rd red slots

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-251-XS&groupid=962&catid=1529&subcat=2267



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Hi whyscotty

Thanks for posting.

I will be using the ASUS RIVE and will probably seek to take advantage of the 16x slots. Now I believe they are the first and second pci-e slots? Do you understand that this is the case too? If so, I'll be putting the two 780s in those, hence why I selected the 2slot bridge

Thoughts? I assumed that due to no air flow being needed, having that config would be ok?

Cheers in advance
 
BaDBoY_uK said:
Hi whyscotty

Thanks for posting.

I will be using the ASUS RIVE and will probably seek to take advantage of the 16x slots. Now I believe they are the first and second pci-e slots? Do you understand that this is the case too? If so, I'll be putting the two 780s in those, hence why I selected the 2slot bridge

Thoughts? I assumed that due to no air flow being needed, having that config would be ok?

Cheers in advance
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It's 1st and 3rd but the 3rd only runs at 16 speed if there's nothing in slot 2, otherwise it runs at 8 speed. Slot two always runs at 8 speed and slot 4 always runs at 4 speed. They are described as 16x slots due to size. Of course, you can run your PCI peripherals in these slots like a PCI_E 1 sound card will run in a 16x slot.
 
BaDBoY_uK said:
Hi whyscotty

Thanks for posting.

I will be using the ASUS RIVE and will probably seek to take advantage of the 16x slots. Now I believe they are the first and second pci-e slots? Do you understand that this is the case too? If so, I'll be putting the two 780s in those, hence why I selected the 2slot bridge

Thoughts? I assumed that due to no air flow being needed, having that config would be ok?

Cheers in advance
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16 x 16 on the Rive is the 1st and 3rd slot(Red)

This was mine running 7970 crossfire b4 I got Titans



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can't wait for my rebuild still with 6950s albeit 3 in xfire. But i think 780s could be the answer!

looks good from what i have seen. i read some where that fat double thinkness rads are only better than slim in push on config
 
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