Is it illegal..... a council tenancy question?

dowie said:
then again if he was sensible/organised like that he'd likely not be living in a council house in the first place.
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my parent's bought a council house some 30 years or so ago and are more than happy living their and get no trouble even though it's known as a really rough area.
what gives you the right to judge people based on where they live or whether it's council or not?
Why does it matter to your tiny insignificant life? you act as though the world will remember you for renting via a private lanlord or buying a house on a private estate
 
dowie said:
Really your friend should just read his tenancy agreement and see if he is allowed to do this.... then again if he was sensible/organised like that he'd likely not be living in a council house in the first place.
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loooooooooooooooooool see what i mean, narrow minded..
 
arknor said:
my parent's bought a council house some 30 years or so ago and are more than happy living their and get no trouble even though it's known as a really rough area.
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Well while I'm sure that's great for for them, they've essentially helped contribute to the shortage of social housing by purchasing their property at a nice knockdown rate...

what gives you the right to judge people based on where they live or whether it's council or not?
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No one needs to give you the 'right' to have an opinion or to judge others... everyone does it to some extent...

Why does it matter to your tiny insignificant life?
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It doesn't matter... and look, you just made a judgement too.

you act as though the world will remember you for renting via a private lanlord or buying a house on a private estate
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No you've just decided that's how I act in your head because you've taken issue with an opinion I've posted.
The OP is 28 if his mate is remotely similar in age then it is reasonably likely that by having to rely on the state/charity to providing housing for him my comment probably isn't too far off... (its hardly available in abundance these days and most councils have long waiting lists etc... so you'd likely have to be a single mother made homeless or a complete basket case to get near the top of a list)

Given that he's let his cousin come in and stay with him without having a clue as to whether he's allowed to or is supposed to notify anyone I really can't see how it paints the picture of someone who has their **** together.
 
Right, while I'm all for people expressing their opinions Dowie I have just taken offence at your comment "have to be a single mother made homeless or a complete basket case to get near the top of a list".

I was put at the top of the housing list, because I had to flee my home shared with an abusive ex partner who tried and very nearly succeeded in destroying my life, I put myself into a hostel for the homeless to get away from abuse and you think that makes me likely..... a complete basket case?

You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself!
 
I thought this was about your 'friend'?

Either way - ending a relationship shouldn't necessarily mean you end up homeless in most cases...

(I realise I am actually missing a comma in my previous post tbh...)
 
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In the past I've phoned the council and just asked did not give my name of anything they were very helpful. in the end worked out fine. i could pay rent to her as long as she did not claim benefits etc
 
dowie said:
I thought this was about your 'friend'?

Either way - ending a relationship shouldn't necessarily mean you end up homeless in most cases...

(I realise I am actually missing a comma in my previous post tbh...)
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Yes Dowie, this thread was originally about my friend who may or may not be doing something silly... That is until you hijacked it with your gross yet sweeping generalisations about people claiming benefits and living in council houses!

You know nothing about mine or many others situations that have led us into this not so perfect situation, yet you will cling on to the media hyped cases like the Philpots and tarnish everyone with the same brush. Yeah I chose to make myself homeless because I was in a completely untenable situation and had no other option except for say eventual murder, death or suicide.

Yeah of course there are disgusting scroungers, lazy people and of course the work shy but then there are many decent, hard working people who are the absolute salt of the earth and would do anything for anyone despite not having much for themselves. So you scoff at us, sitting there behind your monitor in sheer ignorance doing your best to sound controversial because your bored. I'll sit behind mine and pity you cause something tells me with an attitude like that your an awfully lonely person.
 
Woden said:
I was actually looking at this today. ATM I am 30, single and living with my parents (I know, I know, Klingon uniform in in the post) earning £16k. To get a private rental place I would have to be on almost twice that realistically. Mortgage? Not a chance with or without a deposit.

The housing market is broken and wont be fixed by the Tories because most of their voters would be put into negative equity. And landlords are capitalising on that. I saw one place in a grotty area (but walking distance to work) £475 a month for an unfurnished 1bed apartment.
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Up until my Dad died (I was 29 at the time) I was living with him, and paying token rent (about £200 a month), after that I took over the property for 6 months whilst my life changed, but eventually had to leave (it was council and deemed too big for just myself).

At this point I met someone (who I have now married), things progressed and we ended up moving to Bristol and privately renting, and have been there ever since. Our rent started at £675, the year after it rose to £695, and this July it rose to £725! Thankfully we have only signed up for 3-4 months at this last rate, as my in-laws have kindly given us a massive helping hand onto the property ladder and we are now looking to buy our first house - I think it was also a thank you for me paying everything whilst my wife is in Uni (I certainly won't grumble).

If it weren't for this massive helping hand, we would have stood no chance of getting out of rented accommodation, the rent for that place would have continued to rise each year, either putting a tighter strain on my income, or forcing us to move to a cheaper area.

I guess linking onto your post, I too agree that the housing market won't be fixed, as there are too many people who would end up in negative equity, which I'm sure would contribute to possibly another massive economic problem - so house prices will remain unattainable to the masses, but also, renting will rise to levels were most people couldn't afford it. At the moment, I am personally looking at mortgage repayments of between £500 to £600 a month, and you can already see what my renting costs are - it seems daft that rent can cost so much... but I guess it depends on our land lord; if he's got a mortgage on the place we rent that is linked to rates, then his costs will go up (at least that's what I told myself).
 
Woden said:
Well yea, rent is easy. But there's TV licence, gas, leccy, council tax, food, water, etc etc. I've done the budget, I am £75 a month short of doing it without being completely skint all the time.

Not that it matters, I have debts to settle first.
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So you lay it on thick blaming the government, then fess up that you're in debt

Basically you won't move out because you have it cushy at home with your parents. Nothing wrong with that, but don't blame anyone but yourself. If you want to move out you have to make some sacrifices to get that freedom
 
covenantuk said:
So you lay it on thick blaming the government, then fess up that you're in debt

Basically you won't move out because you have it cushy at home with your parents. Nothing wrong with that, but don't blame anyone but yourself. If you want to move out you have to make some sacrifices to get that freedom
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Oh don't be so short sighted.... contrary to most peoples beliefs, you can be careful and still end up in a truck load of debt, for example what happened to me.... had a decent job, had one credit card that wasn't near its limit of £1,500.00.... Got sick, took time off the insurance company took forever to pay.... was let go from my job because of being ill for so long, insurance company decided to stop paying....

So don't tar everyone with the same brush....
 
Vidar said:
Yes Dowie, this thread was originally about my friend who may or may not be doing something silly... That is until you hijacked it with your gross yet sweeping generalisations about people claiming benefits and living in council houses!
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I didn't intend to hijack any thread I made a small comment at the end of a post... might not be an opinion you like but you don't get to chose what everyone else thinks.

You know nothing about mine or many others situations that have led us into this not so perfect situation, yet you will cling on to the media hyped cases like the Philpots and tarnish everyone with the same brush. Yeah I chose to make myself homeless because I was in a completely untenable situation and had no other option except for say eventual murder, death or suicide.
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I don't need to know anything specific about your situation... it was a general comment - lets face it though its fairly likely it applies to your friend. Unless you're trying to convince me that my comment doesn't apply to someone who lets out a room without having a clue if he's allowed to and who's friends with a guy who also doesn't have a clue, seemingly doesn't know where to find out and thinks that the answer can be found by posting the question on a forum without giving any specific details that might actually allow some random poster to provide an answer in the first place...

So you scoff at us, sitting there behind your monitor in sheer ignorance doing your best to sound controversial because your bored. I'll sit behind mine and pity you cause something tells me with an attitude like that your an awfully lonely person.
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You can think whatever you like tbh... while luck can be a significant factor we all still have a lot of personal responsibility for and control over where we end up in life regardless of the starting point. IMO obviously, your opinion might (and likely does) differ...
 
Dowie the only people who really think and act like you do are those who have never had to take the smallest semblance of personal responsibility because they have lived a life of relative affluence. It's really easy to talk tripe about something you have no knowledge about, well good for you and congratulations.

I choose to ask a question on here because it's a community that for the most part I identify with. Fact is I was looking for more of an opinion based answer from people who may understand the system, after all one housing association is I assume pretty much like every other. Google is great for facts, mostly, but I'm not fully aware of my friends situation and looking for the broadest possible spectrum of opinion. Hopefully from people, as I mentioned, who may understand the system...

And while its oh so politically correct to say that no opinion is wrong, and while I agree everyone is entitled to theirs, what I don't agree with is some one deliberately entering a thread with the intention of trolling and not offering anything useful. Sure it's a forum, sure everyone's entitled to post but seriously why bother?
 
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