New Haswell 4770K PC build advice needed

PeterT · 29 Jul 2013 at 13:09

Hello,
We are building a new PC. My last build many years ago was using an
Abit NF7-S ver 2.0 with an overclocked mobile AMD cpu! Although this machine still runs well it is time to build a new beast, hopefully something that will last regarding performance and reliability.
Current PC runs using 2 x HDD in Raid 0 with no reliability issues.

This is what we have worked out so far but need advice about best RAM, HDD and PSU.

So far these seem tasty components but are open to advice! Budget seems to be about £1800.

Coolermaster HAF X
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-203-CM

Haswell i7 4770k (In bundle with h100i water cooler)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-019-CS&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=567

Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-293-AS&tool=3

Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI EXTREME Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-561-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574

All thoughts are welcomed,
Thank you,

PeterT

gary996 · 29 Jul 2013 at 13:27

I have just picked up (or awaiting delivery) of 4770k. Gigabyte Z87oc, MSI 780oc and 16gig of 1866 Vengeance (2x8). Going to wait till the new Samsung Evo's are available.

Then I got to try and WC the lot either in my case or order a new case. Like the look of the 900D. Possible upgrade to Win 8.1 when its released

PeterT · 29 Jul 2013 at 20:42

Any thoughts?

RJC · 29 Jul 2013 at 20:56

Definitely going to a hi-spec pc, some option below, went with Red corsair ram:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Seasonic 760w '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply £149.99
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
2 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £79.99 (£159.98)
Total : £405.36 (includes shipping : £9.50).

honosuseri · 29 Jul 2013 at 21:11

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
1 x BenQ XL2411T 24" TRUE 144Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £249.95
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £148.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £113.99
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
1 x XFX Pro 850W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £71.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0K) £65.99
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
Total : £1,754.80 (includes shipping : FREE).

GPU comes with a MEGA bundle of games (offer ends 31st), you'd double up so can flog off the extra codes to recoup cash

RJC · 29 Jul 2013 at 21:18

Some of the games are not available

Gibbo said:
Games is as per website description, Dirt, Shogun2, Sleeping dogs and Simcity have run out.

So now its just Farcry3 Blood Dragon, Farcry3, Tomb Raider, Bioshock and Crysis 3, whilst stock last.

honosuseri · 29 Jul 2013 at 21:25

RJC said:
Some of the games are not available

5 games! Still better than a poke in the eye

PeterT · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:07

honosuseri said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
1 x BenQ XL2411T 24" TRUE 144Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £249.95
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £148.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black £113.99
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
1 x XFX Pro 850W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £71.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0K) £65.99
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
Total : £1,754.80 (includes shipping : FREE).

GPU comes with a MEGA bundle of games (offer ends 31st), you'd double up so can flog off the extra codes to recoup cash

Thanks for the replies everyone. We do need the Coolermaster style of case as the cube will not fit into our computer work station.
We do not need the monitor as we already have 2 x HP 23" screens.
So please addd a few more high end components if you have compromised at all. What about 16G of ram will it be much of an improvement on 8g?

PeterT

RJC · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:12

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Seasonic 760w '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply £149.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £148.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black (CC-9011012-WW) £93.95
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
2 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £79.99 (£159.98)
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
Total : £1,684.64 (includes shipping : £23.20).

honosuseri · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:25

RJC said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Seasonic 760w '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply £149.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £148.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black (CC-9011012-WW) £93.95
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
2 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £79.99 (£159.98)
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
Total : £1,684.64 (includes shipping : £23.20).

Yeah nice! RAM looks swish but is pricey really....don't forget we can lose the P&P

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £148.99
1 x BitFenix Shinobi XL Full Tower Gaming Windowed Case - Black £129.95
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x Toshiba (7K3000.D) 3TB SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £83.99
2 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (PV38G240C0K) £65.99 (£131.98)
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
Total : £1,644.76 (includes shipping : FREE).

RJC · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:35

Op has a good budget and why not

I always leave the postage costs, just a force of habit.

honosuseri · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:44

RJC said:
Op has a good budget and why not

I always leave the postage costs, just a force of habit.

That Corsair RAM looks amazing on the UP4 mobo. Think I'll stick with the cheaper Patriot with the extra guaranteed speed.

The £20ish saving on the P&P would pay for Corsair SP120 QE fans to upgrade the H100i CLC. Gotta love our loyal membership perks

oldestgregg · 29 Jul 2013 at 22:55

I would get the Corsair 650d case as I put that same 4770k/h100i bundle in mine and its sweet. Also swapped the standard fans for the sp quiet ones.

yoyo59 · 30 Jul 2013 at 00:46

Asus GeForce GTX 780 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card Asus GeForce GTX 780 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £539.99
(£449.99) £539.99
(£449.99)
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99
(£299.16) £358.99
(£299.16)
Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £167.99
(£139.99) £167.99
(£139.99)
Western Digital RE4 2TB SATA-II 64MB Cache - OEM (WD2003FYYS) HDD Western Digital RE4 2TB SATA-II 64MB Cache - OEM (WD2003FYYS) HDD £160.99
(£134.16) £160.99
(£134.16)
Corsair Professional Series AX 760W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020045-UK) Corsair Professional Series AX 760W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020045-UK) £149.99
(£124.99) £149.99
(£124.99)
Corsair Vengeance C70 Midi Tower Gaming Case - Arctic White Corsair Vengeance C70 Midi Tower Gaming Case - Arctic White £94.99
(£79.16) £94.99
(£79.16)
Asus ROG Xonar Phoebus Solo 7.1 PCI-E Soundcard Asus ROG Xonar Phoebus Solo 7.1 PCI-E Soundcard £94.99
(£79.16) £94.99
(£79.16)
Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit £89.99
(£74.99) £89.99
(£74.99)
Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £86.99
(£72.49) £86.99
(£72.49)
LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £15.95
(£13.29) £15.95
(£13.29)

yoyo59 · 30 Jul 2013 at 00:49

check this out

Asus GeForce GTX 780 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £539.99
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £358.99

Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £167.99
Western Digital RE4 2TB SATA-II 64MB Cache - OEM (WD2003FYYS) HDD £160.99

Corsair Professional Series AX 760W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020045-UK) £149.99

Corsair Vengeance C70 Midi Tower Gaming Case - Arctic White £94.99

Asus ROG Xonar Phoebus Solo 7.1 PCI-E Soundcard £94.99

Samsung Green (MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz 30nm Dual Channel Kit £89.99

Samsung 120GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE120BW) £86.99

LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM 15.95

Total : £1,777.36

Ethermaster · 30 Jul 2013 at 08:18

YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3x OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N770OC-2GD) £339.95 (£679.90)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD250BW) £137.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £135.95
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC10TDC01) £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £74.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £39.95
5 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Plus PWM Fan - Orange £13.99 (£69.95)
Total : £1,816.56 (includes shipping : £19.10).

honosuseri · 30 Jul 2013 at 09:56

Ethermaster said:
YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3x OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N770OC-2GD) £339.95 (£679.90)
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £164.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TD250BW) £137.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 650D Gaming Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black £135.95
1 x Seasonic X-Series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £129.95
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC10TDC01) £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £74.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £39.95
5 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Plus PWM Fan - Orange £13.99 (£69.95)
Total : £1,816.56 (includes shipping : £19.10).

What is it with you and fans Ether? lol The case has two 200mm fans and a 120mm fan as it is

Ethermaster · 30 Jul 2013 at 10:03

honosuseri said:
What is it with you and fans Ether? lol The case has two 200mm fans and a 120mm fan as it is

Got to have it all colour matched and themed mate

PeterT · 30 Jul 2013 at 17:16

OK,
THanks again for all of the really helpful replies that have raised a few questions. Please in mind that my last PC build was approx 10 years ago!

1. Are 2 medium priced graphics cards running in crossfire better than using just one better card?

2. I always used ATI (AMD) graphics cards, why have most people suggested nVidia? In the past ATI cards were good for using 2 screens as an extended desktop and I could never manage to set up 2 screens using an nVidia card.

3. Most of your options are including the Samsung SSD and only one other HDD. At the momemt on my "antique" system I am using 2 identical drives running in Raid 0. Does nobody bother with this any longer?
Are you loading windows onto the SSD and everything else on the conventional single HDD?

4. On a 4 RAM slot Motherboard where we want 16Gb of RAM is it better to have 4 x 4Gb or 2 x 8Gb sticks?
Keep your thoughts coming,

PeterT

RJC · 30 Jul 2013 at 17:40

1) Depends on the card's used, to lower end cards can be cheaper and offer better performance than one higher end gpu but, the odd game can have issues when running dual cards.

I run dual 5850 gpus in crossfire and never had any issues.

2) The 770 offers good performance for the price and can run multiple monitors.

3) I use the SSD for Windows and the mechanical drive all other bits, I would never go back to a mechanical drive for the operating system, I also used to run RAID 0 for my operating system.