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Which graphics card for my system - 770 v 7970
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Guess Retro's ninja editing skill still need some more leveling up
Well, at least that cleared up it's only a misunderstanding.
I'm on my phone were editing is slower then grandpa
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No...I just find it ridiculous for being called a AMD fanboy, when I had 6 Nvidia graphic cards and only two ATI cards in my gaming life. I just find it upsetting nowadays people are so quick to jump to conclusion.
Nowadays people seem to label someone a fanboy just going by the graphic card they use...I mean honestly, if the the 770 has 3GB and is 384bit like the 7970, I wouldn't recommend one over the other vise-versa. It's not a matter of red vs green at all, it's purely spec vs spec...yet so many people are trying to push it as that.
I'm not directly this at you Retro by the way, I'm referring to the people in general on the graphic forum thesedays. It is almost like a bad virus spreading without end...
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You had two ATI cards??????? You absolute fanboy! I bet you have a big ATI tattoo on your face as well?
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I think you are still misunderstanding. He is basically saying the gtx770 4gb is a rip off because its costing 80 bucks more for the 2gb of ram to future proof.
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Well with the comment you made you deserved it.
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I did not say this! However, I do think that Nvidia is certainly not giving their customers their money's worth in this gen of cards. I am not saying the 770 is a "bad card", but for that kind of money and being 12 months after the 79xx cards gotten their 12.11 driver, Nvidia should have given their customers something better.
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How much did Nvidia pay you to say that then ey?
EDIT: I thought you were an ATI fanboy? Make up your mind! It makes flaming you very difficult you know!
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Thank you. At least someone can read my post properly.
The simple point is even if AMD was out of the picture, if someone has to pay as much as £400 for a 770 4GB, they might as well stretch their budget and get the GTX780 instead.
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It is hard to read off my phone. That's a possible reason why I misunderstood, but it doesn't matter. I don't post here much anyways because a few here talk nonsense most of the time.
Changing the subject slightly
A fully modded Skyrim is said to use a lot of vram.
Does anyone have any graphs of a fully modded Skyrim vram usage v fps.
It does not matter what card is used, as long as we know which one.
A fully modded Skyrim is said to use a lot of vram.
Does anyone have any graphs of a fully modded Skyrim vram usage v fps.
It does not matter what card is used, as long as we know which one.
What do you mean by fully modded lol? There's thousands of different mods and combination of mods you can use.
I currently use an ENB, a couple weapon mods and I am planning on getting some super high res texture and water mods. I'll run GPU-Z in the background when I've got them installed and report back.
I know GTA4 uses a fair bit of graphics memory with the custom car pack installed.
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If you have £400 and can wait a few weeks the HD8000 series may be the best bet if card longivity is an issue. Unless of course AMD over-inflate the prices of these new cards especially if they are as fast as the 780 or Titan (Providing Nvidia hasn't released something else). Then potential/current AMD users will loose out because of the price inflated Titan effect pushing prices up on the lower enthusiast cards. (Titan is high end)..
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"The Sea Islands (HD8000) series is a family of computer GPUs developed by AMD. AMD was initially rumoured to release the family in the second quarter of 2013, but this turned out to be an OEM rebadge of the 7000 series rather than a true GCN2.0-based successor. That will instead be launched as the Radeon HD 9000 Series and is expected to be released in October 2013." - Source
The HD9000 series will be the next ones to look for. But you could just keep waiting forever, series after series. Eventually you have to take the plunge.
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This just brings us back round full circle as the 770 would run out of GPU power well before the 4gb vram was used. Unless you were Multi monitor gaming with SLI 770's.
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Again, you are looking at it only on the amount of vram, but not the memory bandwidth.
The GTX780 is better than the GTX770 not just because it has more powerful GPU and 1GB more vram, but it has higher memory bandwidth due to the 384-bit memory bus, thus loses less frame rate (in terms of percentage/proportion) when AA is applied (regardless of level of AA used).
GPU grunt usually mostly dictate the performance in games before AA is applied; how much frame rate is lost after AA is applied is however determined by the memory bandwidth.
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I deleted the mention of the 256bit bus out of my post to not get into this again.
2gb vram with 256bit bus will lose a few more fps when High AA is applied and will nearly make the game unplayable anyway ( lack of fps ), So what would using 4gb of vram on a 256bit bus mean. Even more vram usage with higher res textures still on the same GPU that cannot run games at acceptable FPS using 2gb of vram.
TheRealDeal Said " think you are still misunderstanding. He is basically saying the gtx770 4gb is a rip off because its costing 80 bucks more for the 2gb of ram to future proof. "
Future proof what ? Hence why i left out of the post above "the 770 still only has a 256bit bus, But as has been shown a 680 at 1080p res and ultra settings with 8xmsaa still runs the game with its 256bit bus.
The point i tried to make and failed obviously was that a 770 with 4gb is pointless unless your using multi monitors or High res. The 2gb handles most things fine as it is as even if the 770 2gb and 4gb version were the same price you would not gain anything FPS wise on a 1080 or even 1920x1200 monitor with that extra 2gb of vram as the GPU power is already as fast as it can be.
If that is the case then if someone were to use all the vram hungrey mods and post the usage v fps.
This is important to know as it is often quoted as an example in the vram debate. All I am interested in is seeing the actual vram usage/fps figures.