and by white, I hope you mean 'clean of criminal activity', otherwise that's borderline racism sir
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and by white, I hope you mean 'clean of criminal activity', otherwise that's borderline racism sir
Oh she was clearly an out of control drunk, and I am well aware of the statistics that show that drink spiking is no where near the problem people think it is, despite thousands of girls claiming to have their drinks spiked, with toxicology reports showing nothing time and time again.
How ever, to strip someone using 5 officers, 4 of which should not have been in the room, is out of order. A point has been made that maybe female officers were not on hand, so what? Then it should not have occurred.
The fact that the search went ahead against regulations, and then was not recorded as happening, probably in an attempt to cover it up, is out of order.
The fact that the Met looked at it themselves and decided no wrong doing occurred is out of order.
The IPCC investigator himself has said
But no, lets post about how I misunderstood what the CCTV recording meant in context and instead bleat about that, because that is the real problem here and what the thread should be about, thats the important story. Not continued police abuse and lack of accountability.
You mean some officers either have a total contempt for PACE or they're not trained?! Shocking....
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I made a edit on my post.
Officers say it how it is, it does take longer if you want legal advice. HOWEVER you are given written documentation of which entitles you to seeking the same advice if you change your mind, so it makes no difference.
You've obviously had a bad experience with the police at some point, and it's left a bitter taste if your mouth. There are bad eggs in every walk of life, however to call all with the same brush is poor judgement.
The forced strip of a woman by 4 male officers and then an attempt to cover it up is more than a mistake. I have a lot of respect for a fair few officers, relatives and Burnsey on here for instance, but this isn't a mistake, this is corruption.
My issue isn't with all Police officers, it is with Police culture and the lack of accountability, see the above post as well.
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Lack of accountability? On the contrary the police are held accountable more that most public organisations.
Damned if we do, damned if we don't, that's the saying isn't it?
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Hurfdurf, you do realise that police don't need permission or a warrant to strip search a suspect ? Intimate searches are another matter.
No argument that a strip search should be done by same sex officers though. If I remember rightly, it isn't illegal or a breach of PACE if opposite sex officers do it however the Codes of Practice stipulates it as preferable.
Personally, I would refuse to strip search a female suspect.
No argument that a strip search should be done by same sex officers though. If I remember rightly, it isn't illegal or a breach of PACE if opposite sex officers do it however the Codes of Practice stipulates it as preferable.
Personally, I would refuse to strip search a female suspect.
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All cops are trained in PACE. If they breach it willingly then they should answer for it. I stick to it and that may be a reason I've had only one complaint in 13 years service, a malicious one I might add.
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That's correct.
However sometimes the circumstances don't allow this; like I said above, we do not know if she consented to the male officers being present, and safety also takes priority as the chances are she was being quite volatile.
Also someone said above about being left naked in a cell... when a detainee is placed in a cell, they're clothes are removed as standard and they are provided 'safety clothes'. In the event of a strip search these would have been provided, however if she opted not to wear them that is her discretion. Also a force medical advisor would have undoubtedly assessed her.
There is only so much you can do with a drunk or person under the influence.
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i take it you missed the recent article where a bloke was shot at for reaching into his car for a lighter.
God damn police, yet another week has gone by and I haven't had my liberties violated 
Oh yeah, I'm not a drunken nuisance or criminal. Phew
Also, this is the findings of the IPCC isn't it? Doesn't OP have a beef with them not doing exactly what they have done in this case?
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Oh yeah, I'm not a drunken nuisance or criminal. Phew
Also, this is the findings of the IPCC isn't it? Doesn't OP have a beef with them not doing exactly what they have done in this case?
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Glad to see she felt humiliated and distressed, maybe she'll not be a drunken lout next time. Assuming this is all true of course.
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God damn police, yet another week has gone by and I haven't had my liberties violated
Oh yeah, I'm not a drunken nuisance or criminal. Phew
Nail on the head there.
Fed up to the back teeth of idiots getting themselves into trouble, then complaining when their not treated well..
How about that officer you just spat at, or punched? How about that person you just smashed with a bottle because you thought they're looking at you 'funny'.. but then when they're in handcuffs and not being compliant the nasty officer man upsetted my feelings and put the cuffs on too tighty
For example the custody sergeant who has recently lost his job for dragging a violent male from the back of a police van to a cell, who later turned out to have a broken arm, but refused to be compliant and leave the van on his own accord.
What other way is there? Coax him out over the duration of 12 days with food and polite request?
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I'm going to guess (and it's no more than that) that the search was not planned, and probably done after she was taken straight to a cell for being abusive or violent. Whenever I've done a strip search, it's never taken 5 of us before. I'd imagine the decision to search her was made once she was restrained in the cell. That doesn't in any way justify the breaches of PACE, but I don't for one minute believe there was any corruption involved..
Hate to do this mate, but s1 searches can be done by an opposite sex, s54 searches must be same sex.
Hate to do this mate, but s1 searches can be done by an opposite sex, s54 searches must be same sex.
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Granted they breached their own guidelines, but if a female officer was present we can assume there was no impropriety. I don't see why men cannot undress women for a strip search provided they are overseen by a woman and nothing untoward happens.
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However said detainee can opt to be searched by a member of the opposite sex; seen it happen.
* However the search was carried out by a female officer, but males were present, to what extend we don't fully know.
I like what you did there...insult the women but at the same-time cover ur own back incase you are wrong
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I would suggest this is as a result of malicious complaints, from people who are trying to jump on the bang wagon in gaining some compensation.
The largest issues are dealt with as best as possible, however still the police largely accountable in comparison to most.