Are you for or against foriegn aid
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A lot of people in this county that are starving is because they spend there benifits on cigs, alcohol, and gambling or get greedy and buy too much on there credit cards and get into debit. People are dieing in poor country I have never heard of anyone dieing here in the uk.
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You're an idiot, so i'm out of this thread
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That actually makes sense! I always thought of it as a "future" thing not something benefiting us now.
No, it really isn't.This is my soil.
.I fail to see why the nation of origin makes any difference when determining need, why exactly is the suffering of an English person so much worse than the suffering of an African person?.
While some may like to pretend they don't live in & directly benefit from society (through reduced crime, health service. educated population) they do - no man & is an island.
Also to those saying "Charity starts at home" if I recall correctly isn't the main part of that line regarding the earth being the home? - it's not a saying to justify nationalistic fervour & selfish stupidity.
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They have enough to pay there gas and electric my 86year old brother inlaw who lives on benfits has a 4 bed to heat and he manages to save money out of his benifit the reason some old people die is because they don't want to spend the winter fuel allowance on there heating they prefer to save it that's what my brother in laws says
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No, it really isn't.
Also to those saying "Charity starts at home" if I recall correctly isn't the main part of that line regarding the earth being the home? - it's not a saying to justify nationalistic fervour & selfish stupidity.
No.
"A proverb that expresses the overriding demands of taking care of one's family, before caring for others."
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No, it really isn't.
I fail to see why the nation of origin makes any difference when determining need, why exactly is the suffering of an English person so much worse than the suffering of an African person?.
While some may like to pretend they don't live in & directly benefit from society (through reduced crime, health service. educated population) they do - no man & is an island.
Also to those saying "Charity starts at home" if I recall correctly isn't the main part of that line regarding the earth being the home? - it's not a saying to justify nationalistic fervour & selfish stupidity.
Still waiting to hear how you put your money where your mouth is. What is it that you do to uphold these lofty principles?
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No, it really isn't.
I fail to see why the nation of origin makes any difference when determining need, why exactly is the suffering of an English person so much worse than the suffering of an African person?.
While some may like to pretend they don't live in & directly benefit from society (through reduced crime, health service. educated population) they do - no man & is an island.
Also to those saying "Charity starts at home" if I recall correctly isn't the main part of that line regarding the earth being the home? - it's not a saying to justify nationalistic fervour & selfish stupidity.
Actually it is my soil, I was born here, my parents were born here, my grand parents were born here; you get the picture. On top of that I have a legal document proving this fact.
No you are quite right about choosing who you help shouldn't be limited to where you are born, I send money over to the people of Palestine to help with their problems and I also help with local charities including animal ones because they are my choice of people/orgs to help.
As for helping Africans, on that same hand what makes their suffering greater than the English?
I do not wish to be taxed to subsidize their farmers so they can make money growing crops for bio fuels instead of food, nor to I want that money to go the those wicked *******s who oppress them.
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The side-effects of Aid are obvious, it moves any amount of growth away from the west, right into the nations that we have "aided".
To continue this is to deny ourselves the growth we desire, however this aid is no doubt nothing more than insurance for when we have to draw up trade deals and such (India for example, we still give aid to them...for various legit reasons, but i can imagine it helped somewhat in the deal that we did recently).
Is it worth it?
Only those in the know would be able to answer that, but they never will...likely due to a duplicitous nature.
To continue this is to deny ourselves the growth we desire, however this aid is no doubt nothing more than insurance for when we have to draw up trade deals and such (India for example, we still give aid to them...for various legit reasons, but i can imagine it helped somewhat in the deal that we did recently).
Is it worth it?
Only those in the know would be able to answer that, but they never will...likely due to a duplicitous nature.
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I'm against it in some ways and for it in others.
Fir example Pakistan. They subjugate their population, blow their cash on presidential toys and f16 fighter jets.
Help terrorists shelter osama etc and yet we send them aid money
Fir example Pakistan. They subjugate their population, blow their cash on presidential toys and f16 fighter jets.
Help terrorists shelter osama etc and yet we send them aid money
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It's the same with India. Any country who has a space program shouldn't be given aid.
No, it really isn't.
I fail to see why the nation of origin makes any difference when determining need, why exactly is the suffering of an English person so much worse than the suffering of an African person?.
While some may like to pretend they don't live in & directly benefit from society (through reduced crime, health service. educated population) they do - no man & is an island.
Also to those saying "Charity starts at home" if I recall correctly isn't the main part of that line regarding the earth being the home? - it's not a saying to justify nationalistic fervour & selfish stupidity.
I take it you live in a dirty hovel, and every other day tell your kids "sorry Timmy, you're not eating tonight, you got fed yesterday, Xabu over in Ethiopa hasn't eaten in a week, so he's having your dinner"?
Or do you make sure that your family is properly taken care of before considering if you have the spare money to look after others?
If it's the former, then good on you for sticking to your principles, I can't imagine there are many who would do the same. If it's the latter, then, well, I think that's pretty blatant hypocrisy.
In essence, we as a nation are a "family" and mummy and daddy government have a responsibility to make sure their own family are looked after properly before concerning themselves with the homeless guy down the road.
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I've asked him twice if he actually lives the principles he's espousing and I'd be the first to pat him on the back for doing so.
Of course he hasn't responded, so he's plainly just all talk.