Another fantastic reason to vote "In" on the EU referendum

King Damager said:
'Some good policies' does not mean I would ever vote for UKIP ;) They have some truly abominable ones as well...

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Like most parties, such as when labour had the policy of keeping that Ginger idiot in charge so they wouldn't get elected, that was a terrific policy for the country. He went on to Europe and made a fortune from various commissioner jobs, no doubt doing little or no good along the way.

The concept of Europe free travel, easy working, easy imports/exports is all very well and good until they start tinkering.
The one thing which people dislike the most is when the European court makes a decision that costs us money and sticks in the throat, we have Tony Blair to thank for that, he signed us up, he didn't have to, we could have created our own set of human rights and assigned it to the newly created supreme court.

If this is done, then the referendum might keep us in Europe, if it doesn't I can't see people voting for European union, as they 'think' we are losing much more than we actually are, and its a popular vote, not a thought out on balance vote.
They need to shift that one piece of legislation, and then see how people feel about the rest of the European concept.
 
thread is a troll attempt?

especially this comment: Correct, however he's doesn't represent credible opposition (IMO), just a racist biggot with no political policies apart from "get the foreigners out"

OP knows that comment is incorrect but says it too troll reactions.

What are we even discussing nigel farage's integrity, his credibility? how about we talk about the policies instead of the politician.
 
D.P. said:
Farge and the UKIP are are bunch of omniphobic fools!
https://scriptonitedaily.wordpress....not-a-protest-its-an-own-goal/comment-page-1/

The party is full of closet racists, and garage is no exception.

His German wife is often thrown around as "proof", but it is annoying but, Farage's bigotry relates to Eastern Europeans and anyone else colored, and to homosexuals.
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when did random bloggers on wordpress.com start becoming aa good source of anything?

I'd put the daily mail above wordpress.com
 
gobbo said:
Correct, however he's doesn't represent credible opposition (IMO), just a racist biggot with no political policies apart from "get the foreigners out"
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This statement is so inaccurate it's hard to fathom. I guess it shows what good smear job the larger parties abetted by the media are doing.
 
D.P. said:
Farge and the UKIP are are bunch of omniphobic fools!
https://scriptonitedaily.wordpress....not-a-protest-its-an-own-goal/comment-page-1/

The party is full of closet racists, and garage is no exception.

His German wife is often thrown around as "proof", but it is annoying but, Farage's bigotry relates to Eastern Europeans and anyone else colored, and to homosexuals.
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It's impossible to be against uncontrolled mass immigration without bleeding heart liberals calling you a racist. Farage has never said that he wants a blonde haired, blue eyed Caucasian utopia for the UK, just that we should reconsider our open door policy with the EU now we are hitting a population of 65 million and our infrastructure is showing signs of stress. I'm not a fan of his as I don't agree with a lot of his stuff but people paint him with a hyperbolic brush consistently.

[TW]Fox;24748617 said:
Some of the consumer protection legislation is fairly good, it has to be said.

£400 compensation if your next long haul flight is delayed by 4 hours, for example.
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Who do you think pays for forced costs like this?
 
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Labour must love Farage. He's splitting the right-wing vote, forcing the Conservatives to lurch to the right and thus freeing up space in the centre for Labour.
 
groen said:
What are we even discussing nigel farage's integrity, his credibility? how about we talk about the policies instead of the politician.
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Does the integrity and credibility of the politician not impact on whether their policies are worthwhile or likely to get implemented? If someone has no integrity then it's risky to believe that they'd actually implement the policies they espouse were they to get anywhere near power. If they've got no credibility then why should we believe that they are likely to have any success with the policies they propose?

Of course they might have good policies regardless of their merits as politicians or even as human beings but I don't think that they're always completely unconnected or that the link doesn't merit some consideration.

You'd also have to consider whether a particular politician is the only one proposing specific policies - they might be great for you on many levels but if no-one else is choosing to do anything about them then the integrity and credibility of that particular politician is directly in question since you won't get those policies implemented via anyone else who may have less questions about their personal qualities.
 
I don't usually vote but I'ma do ukip next time.

if nothing else it might shock the big parties into reality instead of having seemingly one major party for each "class"
 
kitch9 said:
It's impossible to be against uncontrolled mass immigration without bleeding heart liberals calling you a racist. Farage has never said that he wants a blonde haired, blue eyed Caucasian utopia for the UK, just that we should reconsider our open door policy with the EU now we are hitting a population of 65 million and our infrastructure is showing signs of stress. I'm not a fan of his as I don't agree with a lot of his stuff but people paint him with a hyperbolic brush consistently.
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None of UKIP's policies will actually do anything to control immigration though!
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
Like most parties, such as when labour had the policy of keeping that Ginger idiot in charge so they wouldn't get elected, that was a terrific policy for the country. He went on to Europe and made a fortune from various commissioner jobs, no doubt doing little or no good along the way.

The concept of Europe free travel, easy working, easy imports/exports is all very well and good until they start tinkering.
The one thing which people dislike the most is when the European court makes a decision that costs us money and sticks in the throat, we have Tony Blair to thank for that, he signed us up, he didn't have to, we could have created our own set of human rights and assigned it to the newly created supreme court.

If this is done, then the referendum might keep us in Europe, if it doesn't I can't see people voting for European union, as they 'think' we are losing much more than we actually are, and its a popular vote, not a thought out on balance vote.
They need to shift that one piece of legislation, and then see how people feel about the rest of the European concept.
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Just to be clear, and it seems a lot of people are confused over this, the European Court of Human Rights is not an EU body.
 
kitch9 said:
Who do you think pays for forced costs like this?
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It'll be a mix - some of it will obviously be placed upon on the consumer but some of it will be the airlines, too. They operate in a competitive environment - if efficient airlines with reliable fleets are able to offer low costs by not providing shoddy service that leaves them liable to pay compensation, then other carriers have little choice but to follow the lead rather than just pass the costs onto customers - this would simply make them uncompetitive.
 
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