6 month workout review and couple of questions
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A bit stereotypical isn't it? Never claimed to know everything so wise up old man.
All you have to do is google this subject and be BOMBARDED with the amount of information that supports no cardio before weight training*
*There may be a few ElliotJames on the internet which means you might be able to dig up a couple of articles to support your argument, but please don't ignore the 1000s that support what we are saying.
What are you even talking about? Or is this one big childish troll?
I AM a powerlifter, so yes I know the difference. I also know and train with bodybuilders. You were mocking someone's strength, but when it comes to looking at yours it's different and not relevant
What about that guy's physique then? Can you beat that? Didn't think so.I don't know how you haven't realised the pointlessness of using top level juiced up bodybuilders as an example of good practice for a average gym goer. The steriods and various other chemicals they are mean that they have a greater pool of adaptive resources, so extra cardio won't have the same impacts. Plus, if you're training for strength then cardio immediately before training will mean more fatigue and less load lifted, which will be deleterious to your desired training effect.
You seem to be very quickly forgetting what your original statements were. If you meant something else, don't be surprised if there is some confusion.
Oh, and I'm sure I said this to you the last time you started posting idiotic comments, but stop posting as if you know what you're talking about. You don't. I don't know whether you're deluded or just trolling, but both are not welcome in this section.
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Gah I find it really painful not to be the centre of attention in my own thread.
That Stronglift.com website looks pretty cliché-promise-the-world-eBook-only-$10 to me... I am not really in a position to judge its content though.
That's all I need? Squat, bench, row and then squat, overhead press and deadlift?
That Stronglift.com website looks pretty cliché-promise-the-world-eBook-only-$10 to me... I am not really in a position to judge its content though.
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They're the foundation of most routines and the lifts you should be concentrating on wile you gain strength and experience.
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Ok, so do these and forget everything else I picked up from Gordy's thread (bicep curls, calf raises, skull crushers etc) or still include those and simply do them after the stronglift routine?
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Stronglift is very good at what it does. I think it is mainly a strength building program and for beginners. It is based on all of the important compound lifts if I am right. The Mehdi guy is a bit of a 'my way is the right way' kind of guy though and wants you to join his uber expensive 'inner circle', ignore that and there is some good info on that site. I have seen several of the more respected/experienced members on here recommend it so gave it a go. I think his program seems to be based off of books like Starting Strength and Beyond Brawn. I'm really enjoying it and getting some great early progress from it.
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It depends on your goals really. If you want to get stronger I'd go with Stronglifts, if your want to refine what you've already got go with his routine or something else more orientated towards bodybuilding
It depends on your goals really. If you want to get stronger I'd go with Stronglifts, if your want to refine what you've already got go with his routine or something else more orientated towards bodybuilding
+1
stronglifts will increase your strength no doubt but its not body building concentrated, you will add muscle mass by doing it no doubt but not as much as body building, IMO everyone should start with strength routine for the first 6+ months to learn the big lifts, gain strength and then you can start focusing on the things you want be it bodybulding or improving your strength further..
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I really need to unsubscribe from the stronglifts newsletter tbh.
It's just daily spam with him mostly going off on one about this and that and how you need to get into the inner circle and his way is the only way etc...
While it's a good foundation and strength building program, I think he often contradicts himself.
He talks about how you can lift much more than those BIG guys at the gym and then goes on about more muscle means more strength.
If that's the case, how can he be lifting so much more than the guys who have much bigger muscles who apparently aren't doing it properly.
I get the feeling that he's confusing strength training with bodybuilding which obviously aren't mutually exclusive, but you know what I mean? (I hope
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Either that, or he's hoping his subscribers don't know the difference.
Hell, maybe I don't know wtf I'm talking about 
It's just daily spam with him mostly going off on one about this and that and how you need to get into the inner circle and his way is the only way etc...
While it's a good foundation and strength building program, I think he often contradicts himself.
He talks about how you can lift much more than those BIG guys at the gym and then goes on about more muscle means more strength.
If that's the case, how can he be lifting so much more than the guys who have much bigger muscles who apparently aren't doing it properly.
I get the feeling that he's confusing strength training with bodybuilding which obviously aren't mutually exclusive, but you know what I mean? (I hope
)Either that, or he's hoping his subscribers don't know the difference.
Hell, maybe I don't know wtf I'm talking about
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You should check some of the 5x5SL logs out in the training section mate. Its brilliant to start with. You can also get an excel sheet which helps you log your lifts as well as an app for the phone.
I echo the above though, get some photos on and a training log started.
I echo the above though, get some photos on and a training log started.
No, you seem to have a pretty good understanding of it.I really need to unsubscribe from the stronglifts newsletter tbh.
It's just daily spam with him mostly going off on one about this and that and how you need to get into the inner circle and his way is the only way etc...
While it's a good foundation and strength building program, I think he often contradicts himself.
He talks about how you can lift much more than those BIG guys at the gym and then goes on about more muscle means more strength.
If that's the case, how can he be lifting so much more than the guys who have much bigger muscles who apparently aren't doing it properly.
I get the feeling that he's confusing strength training with bodybuilding which obviously aren't mutually exclusive, but you know what I mean? (I hope
Either that, or he's hoping his subscribers don't know the difference.
Hell, maybe I don't know wtf I'm talking about
His problem is that the ONLY value he has is in his programme, and that's incredibly basic and completely borrowed from other places.