2700k@5Ghz - Any point in changing?

JediFragger · 12 Aug 2013 at 08:59

Hey Guys, you're probably think I'm nuts but is their any point in changing my setup at this moment in time?

Been running it since release (the nice oem chips that came through about 18 months ago) and it's been stellar and done everything I've asked of it, and to be fair the only stressful thing my system does nowadays is gaming and a bit of dvd/handbrake encoding (not a huge amount)

I'm thinking it's not worth changing due to the small gains I'd get, but I'd like to ask the wider community just to be sure...

cheers

Si

Minstadave · 12 Aug 2013 at 09:01

Wouldn't bother, I'm running a 2700k at 4.8Ghz. Haswell offers nothing much worth having at the moment.

Doomedspeed · 12 Aug 2013 at 09:13

2700k @ 5Ghz is a great clocker.

I don't think there any point..

Are you seeing the CPU struggle or is it just an itch?

Akagi · 12 Aug 2013 at 09:27

Yep, I think you're nuts.

Nasher · 12 Aug 2013 at 09:35

Nope, dont change it!

The later cpus (Ivybridge and Haswell) won't clock anywhere near that high, so actually end up being slower once you start overclocking. They have serious heat issues once you reach over about 4.3ghz. Apparently it's because they now use thermal paste between the chip and intergrated heatspreader, instead of metal. Basically intel reduced quality to make more profit :/

Doomedspeed · 12 Aug 2013 at 09:35

acme15 said:
Yep, I think you're nuts.

You said what we were all thinking.

Marine-RX179 · 12 Aug 2013 at 10:06

Most Haswell would hit the roof at 4.70GHz (and that's with good capable motherboard, less capable ones would hit roof at 4.50-4.60GHz), and frankly it would barely be any faster than your Sandy at 5.00GHz, and will be much hotter at the 4.70GHz than your Sandy at 5.00GHz (unless people delid Haswell, which could drop the temp by as much as 19C if done right).

Akagi · 12 Aug 2013 at 10:16

Doomedspeed said:
You said what we were all thinking.

Only because the OP put the words in my mouth.

JediFragger · 12 Aug 2013 at 11:52

Thanks all. Honestly? I think I just had a itch to scratch, but it's partly scratched anyhow with a 7970 Lightning purchase to pair with my existing one

ZR30w so I KIND of need it

I'll hang back til at least Haswell-E then, and see if it'll be worth it...

edit - I should also explain that it's been running at 4.2Ghz in a Shuttle for the past 6 months, but I've decided to go back to a full-rig (hence the Lightning purchase) with my existing bits (Case, 1k psi, AsRock Z68 etc). So thought whilst I was at it maybe switch to an X79-based sys

Zeed · 12 Aug 2013 at 12:58

Having same problem as OP. Only upgrade would be haswell at at lest 4.8 and not many make it to those speeds or ivy at 5ghz and not many of those make it to 5ghz.

Not to mention You would need to Delid ivy and haswell to get temperatures to normal range at those clocks === Bye Bye warranty

Akagi · 12 Aug 2013 at 13:30

Lord_ZED said:
Having same problem as OP. Only upgrade would be haswell at at lest 4.8 and not many make it to those speeds or ivy at 5ghz and not many of those make it to 5ghz.

Not to mention You would need to Delid ivy and haswell to get temperatures to normal range at those clocks === Bye Bye warranty

Pfft, make a note of how the original thermal paste had been applied and put the lid back on.

MrMarvelous · 12 Aug 2013 at 14:07

Minstadave said:
Wouldn't bother, I'm running a 2700k at 4.8Ghz. Haswell offers nothing much worth having at the moment.

Same here. I don't struggle to run anything what so ever and the temps are all good. Will be keeping my 2700K for a good 2-3 years yet I think.

Avathar77 · 12 Aug 2013 at 14:39

Awww I love my 2700K
No point changing for the sake of 10% performance gain(clock for clock)

LtMatt · 12 Aug 2013 at 14:48

JediFragger said:
Hey Guys, you're probably think I'm nuts but is their any point in changing my setup at this moment in time?

Been running it since release (the nice oem chips that came through about 18 months ago) and it's been stellar and done everything I've asked of it, and to be fair the only stressful thing my system does nowadays is gaming and a bit of dvd/handbrake encoding (not a huge amount)

I'm thinking it's not worth changing due to the small gains I'd get, but I'd like to ask the wider community just to be sure...

cheers

Si

Jedi what voltage do you need for 5ghz?

I have a 2700k and i need about 1.344 for 4.8ghz. I've had 5ghz stable at 1.424, but i reckon i might be able to bring it down a tad.

Minstadave said:
Wouldn't bother, I'm running a 2700k at 4.8Ghz. Haswell offers nothing much worth having at the moment.

What voltage do you use at 4.8ghz Dave?

illuz · 12 Aug 2013 at 14:57

Put simply, no. Why waste your money for upgrades you simply will not notice. Wait for 10/14nm or even smaller. At 5ghz you're set for a long time.

If you're a true enthusiast and want to upgrade to have the latest tech, by all means go for it.

spankingtexan · 12 Aug 2013 at 18:03

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JediFragger said:
Hey Guys, you're probably think I'm nuts but is their any point in changing my setup at this moment in time?

Been running it since release (the nice oem chips that came through about 18 months ago) and it's been stellar and done everything I've asked of it, and to be fair the only stressful thing my system does nowadays is gaming and a bit of dvd/handbrake encoding (not a huge amount)

I'm thinking it's not worth changing due to the small gains I'd get, but I'd like to ask the wider community just to be sure...

cheers

Si

Haswell is an awesome CPU but in all honesty, although Haswell is a better performing chip the gains aren't massive, if you don't mind not having the latest tech and all those 6gb sata, usb 3 native ports and PCI-E 3.0 then I'd have to say stick with what you got until Skylake, otherwise, go for it, you'll feel a lot better knowing you got a 4770K, Z87 mobo, and the goose pimples that go with it not to mention the best CPU currently orbiting the sun.

You may as well just get it here..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-471-IN

and here..

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-433-GI&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2574

setter · 12 Aug 2013 at 18:10

Id also stick with the 2700k. An i7 4770k at 4.7ghz is probably equal to the sb chip at 5ghz. But the problem with getting a haswell chip to run at this speed is dealing with the heat they produce. Delidding is an option, but bang go's your warranty.

vectisitch · 12 Aug 2013 at 19:09

my 2700k oem runs at 5.0 ghz 24/7 at 1.38 volts. has done since i installed it. i bought two oem chips and got lucky with both but this one needed much less volts so i sold the other one on even though it ran at 5.0 ghz. i won't be changing it for a few years yet

JediFragger · 12 Aug 2013 at 20:46

Yeah mine runs the same, 1.37 something from memory (ran it for last 7 months in a Shuttle at a much lower overclock)

Nuclear Fusion · 13 Aug 2013 at 17:11

setter said:
Id also stick with the 2700k. An i7 4770k at 4.7ghz is probably equal to the sb chip at 5ghz. But the problem with getting a haswell chip to run at this speed is dealing with the heat they produce. Delidding is an option, but bang go's your warranty.

I'd say a 3770k at 4.7 GHz would be quite similar to a 2700k at 5 GHz, with a 4770k at 4.4 GHz being similar to these two. But I agree, no point changing from a 2700k at 5GHz.