Am I the only one wondering why these girl smugglers are National News?

DirtyJester said:
EDIT: Actually pingwing she is just a resident in N.Ireland, she carries a Republic of Ireland passport... ;)
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From Dungannon, co. Tyrone which last time I checked counts as from good old NI regardless of where her passport was issued :p;) (who doesn't love some northern ireland based semantics)
 
I'm no expert on these matters, but I doubt they were forced to do it. If you were going to coerce or force some random people to smuggle drugs, surely you would make them take a smaller value than half a million each? The risk is too high unless they are proven mules...
 
I still don't understand why, in the world of international drug smuggling, that drug smugglers still resort to stuffing it in suitcases and fobbing it off on to stupid people to carry it on a plane as luggage.

Its the most senseless waste of time, money, and more importantly- drugs I can think of.
 
UncleRuckus said:
"Air hostess I need your help! Please call the police, drug dealers are forcing me to smuggle drugs, please while i'm safe on the plane"
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But if the dealers have had hold of the passports they know where they live and could have threatened them into doing it
 
There are also thoughts that the Cartel purposely set the girls up so that a larger shipment would go undetected once everything in the airport kicks off when discovering the coke in their suitcases.
 
First time I've heard the defence "check her facebook page.. she's normal"
 
atpbx said:
I still don't understand why, in the world of international drug smuggling, that drug smugglers still resort to stuffing it in suitcases and fobbing it off on to stupid people to carry it on a plane as luggage.

Its the most senseless waste of time, money, and more importantly- drugs I can think of.
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Enough of it must get through though as there ain't no cocaine shortage in the UK.
 
UncleRuckus said:
"Air hostess I need your help! Please call the police, drug dealers are forcing me to smuggle drugs, please while i'm safe on the plane"
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Melissa Reid, 19, from Lenzie, near Glasgow, and Michaella McCollum, 20, from Dungannon, were stopped trying to board a flight to Madrid a week ago.
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So clearly they couldn't have done as you suggest because they were never on the plane.

It is possible for someone to be so intimidated by someone else that they will obey that person's orders even if that person isn't there at the time. Someone who's trafficking cocaine internationally in batches of more than 10Kg is likely to be very rich and very dangerous, someone who you'd believe if they told you they would have you and your family killed if you didn't obey them. It's not that far from Spain to GB or Ireland, so going home wouldn't make them safe.

So I think it's possible that they might have been forced into a situation in which they saw carrying the drugs as the least risky option available to them, and even possible that it was the least risky option available to them.
 
Angilion said:
So clearly they couldn't have done as you suggest because they were never on the plane.

It is possible for someone to be so intimidated by someone else that they will obey that person's orders even if that person isn't there at the time. Someone who's trafficking cocaine internationally in batches of more than 10Kg is likely to be very rich and very dangerous, someone who you'd believe if they told you they would have you and your family killed if you didn't obey them. It's not that far from Spain to GB or Ireland, so going home wouldn't make them safe.

So I think it's possible that they might have been forced into a situation in which they saw carrying the drugs as the least risky option available to them, and even possible that it was the least risky option available to them.
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They got a flight from Spain to Peru before they were handed the drugs.
 
panyan said:
how could they have boarded the plane without their passports?
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they wouldn't have the original but could have taken a copy or obtained all the info they need from it and their fb twitter etc.

i would guess that one of them met a ''really cool bloke'' in ibiza and he persuaded them into it with a few lavish and exciting nights out. probably happens more than one may imagine but their residency has made the news here.

they're 18 and 19, obviously not the sharpest tools in the box and incredibly naive.
 
McBain said:
I look forward to Banged Up Abroad having new material in 25 years.
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That's what I was thinking. Maybe they will escape and be on it sooner. Love that programme.

atpbx said:
I still don't understand why, in the world of international drug smuggling, that drug smugglers still resort to stuffing it in suitcases and fobbing it off on to stupid people to carry it on a plane as luggage.

Its the most senseless waste of time, money, and more importantly- drugs I can think of.
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Why? Do you know how much makes it through successfully? What would you do instead?

D18241 said:
But if the dealers have had hold of the passports they know where they live and could have threatened them into doing it
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There is no address on a passport.

Do we know if they are saying they were coerced in Peru or Ibiza?
 
Jambo said:
There is no address on a passport.

Do we know if they are saying they were coerced in Peru or Ibiza?
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Actually there is a space for someone to enter their address on a passport.

I don't believe for a second that they just randomly headed off to Peru off their own bat to get coerced over there. Either they fell in with the wrong crowd who threatened them over a debt or some such or was just plain offered money to do it in Ibiza.

Edit: In fact it's an emergency contact address - eg we know where your parents live...
 
atpbx said:
Well that's a bit of a stupid question, of course there are better methods of smuggling drugs than using mules, for most countries anyway.
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There are plenty of other ways but I'm not sure you could say they are necessarily better ways. Unless you have experience of it.
 
I think these girls have been setup, yes they got caught but I bet far more drugs got through on that flight then known.
 
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