New Golf Mk7

OK this thread is a bit old here, but I am wondering what defines a "premium" car. Is it the badge no matter how low rent the product is, is it's reliability, is it's level of equipment or the price?

I would take a mid to high spec Golf over a BMW 1 series or Mercedes A class at the same priecepoint any day of the week. The MK6 Golf saw a huge jump in pricing at the higher end over the MK5 for very little extra (GT 170TDI to GTD saw a £4k hike for a few styling extras), but the new MK7 Golf is bristling with new tech as standard and looks a little better than the MK6 externally without the ridiculously oversized rear lights and it's sharper lines.

Compared to the BMW 1 series and Mercedes A Class the interior is massively better in equipment and materials in a Golf. The Golf may be safe/bland in it's looks but for many people the BMW1 series is offensively ugly and the Merc is just one of many VW Scirocco clones that doesn't look as good as the car it is mimicking. Line up the 3 cars and the Golf looks the best value, best specced and feels most solid. It also has amazing residuals. At the higher end, who would pick a Phaeton over a 7 series? Sticking a BMW or Merc badge on a small car that doesn't feel at all premium doesn't make it a premium car to me.

The Audi A3 is a very small step up in cabin quality from the Golf now (as the Golf has come a long way recently), but is very expensive to get to a reasonable spec - almost everything you'd want is an optional extra.

The most surprising thing I have seen with cars over the last year is that Alfa are prepared to give a 5 year warranty but the German big boys won't - so much for their own confidence in German reliability.
 
Bumpity bump... Golf R revealed!

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Near enough 300bhp, Haldex that can deliver 100% FWD for economy and 100% RWD for POWAA or anywhere in between that it deems best, Sub 5s to 60 on the DSG version and no doubt a completely stupid price tag. Oh and quad exit exhaust. Yeah... :/

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-1, it'll be £40,000+ which is comical amounts of money for a Golf.

Nobody will buy it just like nobody bought the last one because it's an area of the market that just doesn't need a Golf.

The Golf GTI will remain the best Golf, IMHO. The R exists to get people to buy 2.0 TDI R-Line's or whatever.
 
Is the R 2.0t? If so that's another helping of dull


Indeed


Hot golfs died when they stopped fitting them with 6 pots



You dony buy a 40k 300bhp golf to worry about a few mpg or what ved band it falls in

Should have slotted the 3.6 6 pot or some current version of the same in there
 
Fair point actually. A forced induction 3.2 would have been fantastic.



Having been fortunate enough to be handed the keys to a turbo r32 a few years ago it truly is a loopy experience

Proper 6 pot noise with all the whooshes and ridiculous grunt the one I had a shot of was running low boost and 400bhp but enough to be completely loopy
 
You dony buy a 40k 300bhp golf to worry about a few mpg or what ved band it falls in

You do when it's financed up on VW PCP and busting your monthly budget such that extra VED pushes it over the edge.

See also: Millions of Mercedes AMG Sport Plus Ultra Sport Super Sport AMG PLUS PLUS SPORT 1.6 diesel things.
 
Not a fan of that mk7 R (or even mk6 for that matter) at all :( just seems like a slightly modified GTI. At least the old mk4 and 5 R32 were a bit more "special" with the VR6 engine.
 
I was "following" a mk5 R32 the other day, easy to forget what a brilliant noise these things make.

The mk5 doesn't seem to be as well liked as the mk4 but I personally much prefer it.
 
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