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Yep OK, I'll go along with that. Machine!!
I just wonder what difference in segment placing/times is required to go from 93.15 to 95.
Honestly though it's just a throwaway figure I don't see it as a valuable metric. Still to many variables involved to make it a meaningful way of ranking you
[DOD]Asprilla;24847335 said:Shall we all just enter the RAAM?![]()
[DOD]Asprilla;24846961 said:You don't want to enter the Etape. You want to enter the Marmotte.
I'm lining it up for my 40th in a couple of years.
Maybe it is "more meaningful that just number of KOM's" but that still doesn't make it a useful metric.
And your veloviewer score is...
VeloViewer said:Your VeloViewer score is a way to compare yourself against your peers. It is the average segment position score from your top 25% (max 100) of non-downhill segment.
More detail:
Position score - Each of your completed segments comes with a score, between 0 and 100, that represents your relative position based on the number of other athletes that have also ridden the segment. The higher the score the better!
Why not use placing? - Being 1st of 2 athletes isn't the same value as being 1st of 1,000. Equally being last of 2 athletes isn't anywhere near as bad as last of 1,000. The position score reflects how you stack up against others much better than your actual placing.
25% - Only your top 25% of scores (to a maximum of 100) are taken into consideration as I'm guessing you haven't visited the pain cave for the majority of your segments so we only want to include those where you have.
But we've got local pro's taking the top spots - Seeing as the score isn't based on actual positions then this should well balance out as if the area is good enough for lots of pro's to ride there, chances are there are a lot more non-pro riders too so giving the potential for higher relative scores.
But I'm an awesome downhiller! - I feel your pain but to comply with STRAVA API usage rules, flat or uphill only.
Good ways to improve your score could be:
Go for segments you've not ridden before to get your worse scores out of your top 25%.
Check out your segments where you score below you VeloViewer score but still within the top 25% and try and improve your placing.
Ride segments that have a higher number of athletes as the potential for a higher score is better, but then so is the potential for a lower score.
Get fitter!
Surely that's the same as Strava KOMs then? Too many variables involved.
The only real way to tell if you're faster than someone is to race against them.
Why not? It's a score based on your collective performance on your best stages. If you view it as just that, then of course it's meaningful. Maybe it appears less so because we're generally all scoring well, but hey, we're made up of quite a keen bunch of cyclists, so that shouldn't come as a great surprise.
You could always do what I did.[Damien];24847475 said:Entirely powered by cake obviously. I keep seeing segments where I've got practically the same time as skinny whippet climbers so I really want to get lighter and see how I compare when I'm in a similar weight bracket. My sweet tooth and complete lack of willpower has other ideas though.
I might have to take up TT'ing or track cycling where it's perfectly fine to be a chunk and stuff your face all day erry day.
VeloViewer Score
96.06 ?
From 55 of 219 segments.
so I'm not as slow as I thought I would be compared to you skinny beasts..![]()
Losing weight would certainly help but it's not just about weight. Power to weight ratio, and the time that you can hold that power is more important. I'm a fairly good climber and have lots of hill KOMs and i'm not particularly light at around 82kg.[Damien];24847475 said:Entirely powered by cake obviously. I keep seeing segments where I've got practically the same time as skinny whippet climbers so I really want to get lighter and see how I compare when I'm in a similar weight bracket. My sweet tooth and complete lack of willpower has other ideas though.
I might have to take up TT'ing or track cycling where it's perfectly fine to be a chunk and stuff your face all day erry day.
True, racing (especially bunch racing) has a lot of variables as well but racing in the same place at the same time removes some of the variables that Strava leaderboards have (weather, wind, traffic, junctions, traffic lights, etc)uniQ said:As for racing someone, if they're of similar ability then you would need to race them several times. You may be faster on flats @ TT's, hills, a better descender etc so even that's not a great way to measure yourself.
Having less weight is only really an advantage if you're going upwards..
Seriously thinking about the Canyon CF SL in black instead of an R3 now.
For £200 more than an R3 frameset you get a complete bike under 7KG with 11sp Ultegra and a £450ish wheelset.
I could probably get the CF SL & the Inflight CX (or stages power meter) for less than a built up R3. Ack