Our news is faked

[Schlong&Stable]

It's certainly true that the majority of media outlets do not acquire their stories first hand. It's true that often they use the same source, which is why they will say the exact same things.

Reuters is an example of syndicated news. If they unknowingly receive footage which is fake, then huge swathes of the media will unknowingly use the same footage.

In a short, a big section of the OP's madness can be explained by ignorance of how the media works. But I am still waiting to hear where the link I quoted above appeared in mainstream media?

 

[FTM]

not wanting to throw oil onto the fire

but how can anybody be 100% sure the you tube stuff isnt faked as well

I am never sure why conspiracy nuts say one set of 'official' footage is faked whilst swearing blind that other footage isnt

if one side can fake stuff why cant the other side?

 

[sigma]

Not clicked any links but did someone seriously use Russia Today to back up claims that the UK media is biased?

Wut

 

[platypus]

Hopefully you will now see how easy it is to fake news that it is Assad using chemical weapons and not the rebels.

You can prove this, of course.

 

[Dis86]

I was on the news once. Am I fake? I hope not. I quite like existing.

I never thought this thread would make me ponder the very presence of myself in this universe. Well that's my day ruined. Thanks OP!

 

[bitslice]

Unusual amount of haters in this thread?

It's been going on forever, something from R4 the other day:

"A 1970 memo from the FBI planning to plant in newspapers the false story that the father of actress Jean Seberg’s impending baby was a Black Panther, rather than the actual father, her husband; the reason was because she had been a financial supporter of the Panthers. This memo was picked up by gossip columnists. The resulting stress led to a suicide attempt, premature delivery of the baby, and its death after only two days. Seberg herself committed suicide in 1979".

(In context this was back when there was a lot of racial hate in America)
Quite sad, she had her (white) baby daughter displayed in an open casket so people could see the truth, even had an autopsy done as legal proof.
She'd known for a while that the FBI were manipulating her life, but everyone just said she was paranoid.

Just another example of a rumour printed by one paper, later being printed as fact (in this case, Newsweek) by another.

 

[eatcustard]

This tread is faked

BBC news website says so

 

[deanolfc]

British Biased Corporation is not a solid link also.

 

[JoeF1]

This thread has more links in it than the Youtube thread.

Taxi!

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

I don't think any of us are 'haters' (incidentally, is this now the de facto word for people who disagree with one's viewpoint, much like the co-opted misuse of the word 'troll'?)

The OP pastes youtube after ******** after RT after Infowars links about something that most people would accept: news has bias, most often intentionally, less often not. Where he loses credibility is when creeping indignation becomes almost rage and the unverified and almost always unreputable links replace the written argument.

The worst enemy of those trying to 'lift the curtain' (thanks abovetopsecret !) are those trying to do just that. The need to get their message out there becomes paramount, it becomes a shout, it becomes a generalisation : 'sheeple', 'blinkered', 'Alex Jones', 'youtube', 'open your eyes'. It's so hackneyed, so trite, so predictable as to be meaningless.

And by the way, OP, this is how you lose an audience. This is not a forum filled with people with entrenched views (well, not always) who cannot be argued to another position. If, however, your argument is, "Russia Today and youtube say so" then I'd politely suggest that you've misunderstood your audience, should take stock and either try harder or go back to the websites who endorse misinformation and celebrate the very lack of thought which you've accused us of.

(this is the bit where you call me a sheeple and berate me for not watching any of your someone else's vidoes posted on youtube)

 

[smelly_legend]

How do I know what any ever tells me truth or fake? When I next visit my nana and she says she's happy to see me, i'm giving her a lie detector test.

 

[Deiwos]

I don't think any of us are 'haters' (incidentally, is this now the de facto word for people who disagree with one's viewpoint, much like the co-opted misuse of the word 'troll'?)

The OP pastes youtube after ******** after RT after Infowars links about something that most people would accept: news has bias, most often intentionally, less often not. Where he loses credibility is when creeping indignation becomes almost rage and the unverified and almost always unreputable links replace the written argument.

The worst enemy of those trying to 'lift the curtain' (thanks abovetopsecret !) are those trying to do just that. The need to get their message out there becomes paramount, it becomes a shout, it becomes a generalisation : 'sheeple', 'blinkered', 'Alex Jones', 'youtube', 'open your eyes'. It's so hackneyed, so trite, so predictable as to be meaningless.

And by the way, OP, this is how you lose an audience. This is not a forum filled with people with entrenched views (well, not always) who cannot be argued to another position. If, however, your argument is, "Russia Today and youtube say so" then I'd politely suggest that you've misunderstood your audience, should take stock and either try harder or go back to the websites who endorse misinformation and celebrate the very lack of thought which you've accused us of.

(this is the bit where you call me a sheeple and berate me for not watching any of your someone else's vidoes posted on youtube)

I don't often say this but I love you.

 

[4T5]

Should have taken the Blue pill.

 

[bitslice]

I don't think any of us are 'haters' (incidentally, is this now the de facto word for people who disagree with one's viewpoint, much like the co-opted misuse of the word 'troll'?)

Heh, I hate the troll one too,
I was just thinking the topic deserved to be taken a bit more seriously rather than just focussing on one posters presentation. We are lied to in many ways, some of them quite subtle and this really needs to be discussed. We go on to make important decisions not just about what happens in our country but the fate (and mortality) of people in many other countries too.
I'd like to think that my views on what's happening are not merely because I've been led by the nose by various interested parties. (Of course some of my views are blatent stereotypes, but actually that's only because I seek to promote those stereotypes and play the same game)

Nice to have you back by the way, forum was dull :/

 

[Firestar_3x]

not wanting to throw oil onto the fire

but how can anybody be 100% sure the you tube stuff isnt faked as well

I am never sure why conspiracy nuts say one set of 'official' footage is faked whilst swearing blind that other footage isnt

if one side can fake stuff why cant the other side?

Easy now, don't want to cause a tear in the space time continuum.

 

[Devlish]

If you watch ******** and reddit, youll be surprised at how much gets onto the mainstream news sites afterwards, and by mainstream im referring to the **** mainstream like the Daily Mail who dont want to waste their time on investigations when theres a carrot shaped like a penis somewhere. Its a huge circle jerk, 'OHMYGOD this was on ******** and now its in the mainstream media, so it must be the truth! You just want to ban these people from a number of dangerous activities, like voting and procreation.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Let me say again both China and Russia has said attack Iran and that will be the start of World War 3. Iran has said attack Syria and we will help them. So if we attack Syria Iran is going to help them. Which means we will have to respond and attack Iran. Then we will see if China and Russia are bluffing and if they help Iran. Then we will see if China and Russia are willing to start a third world war. I for one do not want to see if Iran, China and Russia are bluffing.

This post highlights your lack of understanding of world politics. Iran may help syria, but it most likely be in the form of sending weapons, not armies. Iran's leadership is posturing itself to regain ties with the west to remove economic sanctions as the Iranian currency has crashed in value. It's not in Iran's best interest to get involved. The world economy and globalisation in itself has made countries much more interdependent. That in itself means that global conflicts are much more unlikely. That doesn't mean that other countries won't give plenty of rhetoric though.

I don't think any of us are 'haters' (incidentally, is this now the de facto word for people who disagree with one's viewpoint, much like the co-opted misuse of the word 'troll'?)

The OP pastes youtube after ******** after RT after Infowars links about something that most people would accept: news has bias, most often intentionally, less often not. Where he loses credibility is when creeping indignation becomes almost rage and the unverified and almost always unreputable links replace the written argument.

The worst enemy of those trying to 'lift the curtain' (thanks abovetopsecret !) are those trying to do just that. The need to get their message out there becomes paramount, it becomes a shout, it becomes a generalisation : 'sheeple', 'blinkered', 'Alex Jones', 'youtube', 'open your eyes'. It's so hackneyed, so trite, so predictable as to be meaningless.

And by the way, OP, this is how you lose an audience. This is not a forum filled with people with entrenched views (well, not always) who cannot be argued to another position. If, however, your argument is, "Russia Today and youtube say so" then I'd politely suggest that you've misunderstood your audience, should take stock and either try harder or go back to the websites who endorse misinformation and celebrate the very lack of thought which you've accused us of.

(this is the bit where you call me a sheeple and berate me for not watching any of your someone else's vidoes posted on youtube)

Well apparently not all your posts are spam. That's a welcome change.

 

[JoeF1]

not wanting to throw oil onto the fire

but how can anybody be 100% sure the you tube stuff isnt faked as well

I am never sure why conspiracy nuts say one set of 'official' footage is faked whilst swearing blind that other footage isnt

if one side can fake stuff why cant the other side?

 

[Outline]

Whatever has been said here...

I often worry I'm being inhumane by not appearing to 'care' about what's going on in war, in the world and so on. It's very possible that there are terrible things happening that we should care about it. But it's certain that we're being told lies, propaganda to get us behind fake causes.

WW1, WW2 Vietnam, all started by American/British Governments for financial gain. If you go further than that, it's the central banks pulling their strings to do so.

Audiences need to wake the hell up.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

Whatever has been said here...

I often worry I'm being inhumane by not appearing to 'care' about what's going on in war, in the world and so on. It's very possible that there are terrible things happening that we should care about it. But it's certain that we're being told lies, propaganda to get us behind fake causes.

WW1, WW2 Vietnam, all started by American/British Governments for financial gain. If you go further than that, it's the central banks pulling their strings to do so.

Audiences need to wake the hell up.

And become minimalists?