Duck v Goose feather & down

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would just like to start by saying what an awsome website http://www.factory-beds-direct.co.uk is, just for the simple fact, I emailed questioning about their starter £400 mattress, in comparison to New cotton Pocket 1200 with an additional mattress topper i could then afford for roughly the same price and what they would advise I purchase, to reccomend I go with the competitors mattress. Talk about honest opinion!
Hi Jonathan

After looking at the bed you have linked in your email, I would actually go with that option, for it's spring count and upholstery used at the price it is being offered at would be a good enough buy.

For your body weight a medium tension spring is ideal.

A good company to look at for mattress toppers is the duvet and pillow warehouse and you will be able to pick up a decent topper for less than a £100.

Adding a mattress topper will give you that extra luxury comfort layer to your mattress and at the same time adding to it's longevity.
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Now my problem being, I've searched on here for reviews on goose/duck down and feather but cant decide whether I should push past my budget and go all out for the goose down or the duck, with a £65 price difference, is it really worth paying almost double for the goose? It does come 1cm thicker, with a 3cm additional feather layer, but I dont know if I can justify the cost..

luxury duck down dual chamber
ultimate goose down

the only reason im strugglnig to decide is because ive just snapped up a steal with a goose duvet being half price at £68 a 9 tog double.
http://www.duvetandpillowwarehouse.co.uk/luxury-hungarian.html

does anyone have one of these as a topper? how much maintenance and shaking do they require on a regular basis? do they just go flat pretty quickly, and anyone who can compare v memory foam?
 
Slightly on topic but I have a goose down duvet and pillows I bought from duvet and pillow warehouse a few years back and they've both been great. I believe goose down is warmer and lighter than duck, so probably won't make a huge difference with a topper but I could be wrong.
 
As has been said goose is lighter, so you end up with a lighter duvet.

Another thing worth watching for is the down/feather ratio... feather is cheaper so many of the cheaper versions will be around 90 feather / 10 down (feather being heavier, since you need more as it provides less insulation).
 
Yeah I've looked into that. The ones Ive quoted contain 70/80% down.

The duvet isnt really my concern, im sold with the 90% down, 10% feather it would be silly to buy anything different with the deal thats on for it.
It's more to if its worth splashing out a further £65 on 1cm more down, which would be goose instead of duck, with an additional 3cm layer of small goose feathers

I'm just wondering what would be better. I've cycled many many reviews on memory foam v down.
Good quality memory foam is good for people who have back pains, like myself.. Although they tend to get very hot, and I suffer enough from being warm in bed.. its a pro con which both have benefits.. i dont know if i would require the firmness of a memory foam or softness of a duck and down
 
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I bought a new duvet back in winter and had to make a similar decision.

The thing to watch for is that they aren't all equal. For example, you can get duck down filled items which are better than cheaper goose products because as Jonnhbmac says, the fill ratio of down to feather can be different. It's more down that you want, as thats the soft, warm insulating part, compared to the feathers. Then there is also the fact that they come from different types of duck and goose, which again effects quality.

There isn't too much difference in weight really. Geese are typically larger birds which also tend to travel to colder climates, the main difference being they have more down per cluster than ducks, so can be warmer for the amount of fill, but isn't going to make much of a noticeable weight difference. Goose also tends to be more expensive for the simple fact that its marketed as the superior product, where as duck is in much greater supply.

With the products you are looking at, you can see that the goose one is made up of 10% less down, compared to the duck one. I'm sure both will be comfy though.

Top Chamber: 80% White Duck Down 20% White Duck Feather,Bottom Chamber: 100% White Duck Feather

Top Layer: 70% White Goose Down, 30% White Goose Feather.Bottom Layer: 100% Small White Goose Feather
 
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I deliberated for days over the same thing a few months back.

Ended up with a wool duvet instead and couldn't be happier. Brilliant for body temperature regulation.
 
Pho said:
Slightly on topic but I have a goose down duvet and pillows I bought from duvet and pillow warehouse a few years back and they've both been great. I believe goose down is warmer and lighter than duck, so probably won't make a huge difference with a topper but I could be wrong.
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Arrrrrrrgh stabby pillows NOOOOOOOOO!!!!
 
Ant84 said:
I deliberated for days over the same thing a few months back.

Ended up with a wool duvet instead and couldn't be happier. Brilliant for body temperature regulation.
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please dont bring other materials into the equation my head is battered enough :(

ive decided to go with the duck feather and down one. I've battered my head enough about the pros of memory foam with a bad back, but i believe my new bed should be enough to suffice the firmness along with the cloudy feel of the feather topper

now do i use a mattress protector with a topper? or would the topper act as one itself?
 
Jonnybmac said:
What tog is your duvet? if its 9, does that suit you all year round?
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It's 13.5 but I also tend to have two duvets on all year around (the other is probably only about ~5 to be fair).

I get cold at night :D. It's mostly fine however.

nick.lidgett said:
Arrrrrrrgh stabby pillows NOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Put a thin normal pillow on top. Still soft but no stabby feather swallowing :D.
 
thats correct, it also weights less due to no quills.. went for ther 10% feathers not only as it was cheaper but 10% ridgity cant be all too bad
 
These are the normal cheaper brands - the goose down with feathers. All down duvets will set you back hundreds depending on the amount of 'fill' and quality. A quality 100% Siberian goose down single duvet 15 tog will set you back £300+. Remember you get what you pay for.
 
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These are the normal cheaper brands - the goose down with feathers. All down duvets will set you back hundreds depending on the amount of 'fill' and quality. A quality 100% Siberian goose down single duvet 15 tog will set you back £300+. Remember you get what you pay for.
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I agree, but from going from a standard no name duvet, im abit skeptical as to spashing out £300+/- for a duvet!
I got the hungarian goose 9 tog with 90% fill. for £69, should be £138 but was in a genuine sale.

Any cold climate goose is arguably the best, some say hungarian, some canadian, some syberian.. i'd imagine, unless you compare side by side, you wont tell that much of a difference when in bed.


Fuzz said:
Don't know how good a "deal" this actually is but having read this thread this morning whilst in bed I thought I'd throw it up here as I've just received email.

http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/national-deal/branded-bedding/26097098
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thats a pretty poor price to be fair.. id imagine people will get suckered in with the % off and goose, but its only feathers. You would benefit more with a duck and down v a goose feather i beleve..
 
there is no such thing as siberian goose down. it's a made up name which carries a premium price when it's actually cheap poor quality down.
 
Teknobry said:
there is no such thing as siberian goose down. it's a made up name which carries a premium price when it's actually cheap poor quality down.
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You've been reading a US site which is selling their own products so they're bound to say that. Have you ever used one? A high quality goose down duvet is superb and also light-weight but they are expensive.
 
the siberian goose is an endagered and protected species. i've never been able to verify any claim about goose farms in siberia, its far to cold for them to survive.
I will hold my hands up if i'm wrong but the term 'siberian goose down' is a marketing term.
canadian or hungarian are the premium ones from what i found.
 
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