Consequences of public suicide

[Yas786]

How mildly inconvenient for you.

he hasnt even mentioned if it was inconvenient to him or not, in fact in his OP he even went as far as to say to say hes not here to talk about the inconvenience etc. But well done on your pathetic attempts to troll the thread.

Anyhow ive had this happen to me a few times when taking the trains or tubes and yes its inconvenient but like most in here, i feel sorry for the person to take such a step. Surely there is more to life than topping yourself??.

 

[Hyburnate]

My dad who worked for London Underground all his life, started out as a station assistant on the central line around Tottenham court road.

He had many stories about suicide attempts and having to clean up after them nice.
On the upside of that though he was awarded twice for assisting and personally rescuing a jumper who "wasn't very good" at trying to commit suicide, by pinning him down in the crawl space they had beneath the track.

Mum has them framed on the wall.

Damn, good on him

 

[neil_g]

there was a series on the BBC last year called "Keeping Britain on Track" which was actually quite interesting. they had a few suicides on there and how they dealt with them.

one of the engineers that maintained the east midlands intercity trains said he found a hand/body part wedged under a train while doing some maintenance etc..

 

[fozzybear]

It's selfish and just irritates everyone!

 

[Hades]

It doesn't irritate me. I think I can delay my life for an hour if someone feels that theirs is so severely bad that they want to die.

This for me. If someone is so desperate that they need to take their own life then There But For The Grace Of God Go I.

 

[Windle]

Working in the industry it's a truly tragic incident and I feel sorry for the train drivers who experience it. I got sent on a Samaritans course "Managing Suicidal contacts in the rail environment" and some of the details were truly harrowing. They again highlighted that for many of the drivers who unfortunately experience a suicide event it is frequently a career ending incident.

They are however well looked after by the train operating company (TOCs) and do receive all the support possible as well as groups like the Samaritans operating closely with Network Rail and the TOCs to provide support before and after an event.

 

[doofer]

he hasnt even mentioned if it was inconvenient to him or not, in fact in his OP he even went as far as to say to say hes not here to talk about the inconvenience etc. But well done on your pathetic attempts to troll the thread.

His opening line is: Today my journey was delayed.

Well done on your pathetic attempt at comprehension.

 

[neil_g]

His opening line is: Today my journey was delayed.

well that was a fact. the train was late..

 

[tomparker95]

My dad who worked for London Underground all his life, started out as a station assistant on the central line around Tottenham court road.

He had many stories about suicide attempts and having to clean up after them nice.
On the upside of that though he was awarded twice for assisting and personally rescuing a jumper who "wasn't very good" at trying to commit suicide, by pinning him down in the crawl space they had beneath the track.

Mum has them framed on the wall.

 

[Freeman]

OP. There was a programme on not long ago about London's underground. I think it was on Channel 4 possibly. Maybe BBC. Anyway, one episode covered suicides and how they deal with it. The train gets delayed, the driver comes off duty, and then is given the choice as to whether they want counselling or not. It affects different people in different ways so some opt for it, some do not.

Might be worth looking up on iPlayer or something as it sounds like you'd find it quite interesting.

 

[Antipasti]

Surely the driver can't see much from where they sit?

 

[Fenris]

His opening line is: Today my journey was delayed.

His journey WAS delayed...

Maybe if you read past the first dozen words and had any intention of actually contributing to this thread instead of being an arrogant, ignorant troll you would realise that the OPs post is perfectly reasonable.


On topic, I can't imagine what it must be like for the driver, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have to deal with a serious level of guilt brought on by thinking they are some how responsible considering they are the "driver" of the train, obviously they are in no way responsible but I can't imagine it is a difficult leap for someone who goes through something like that.

Surely the driver can't see much from where they sit?

You mean in the cab at the front of the train with loads of windows?

I doubt seeing it is the real issue however unsettling that must be, it is the fact they are the driver of the train that killed someone.

Reevsy you clearly don't want to contribute to this thread, just stop posting in it.

 

[Suarez7]

Surely the driver can't see much from where they sit?

 

[Antipasti]

Surely the person hits the wheels which wouldn't be visable to the driver? I've no idea, mind.

 

[Hades]

I can't imagine what it must be like for the driver, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they have to deal with a serious level of guilt brought on by thinking they are some how responsible considering they are the "driver" of the train, obviously they are in no way responsible but I can't imagine it is a difficult leap for someone who goes through something like that.

My brother-in-law is a tube driver and has had two people jump in front of his train. He doesn't really talk about it.

Nowadays I think I've seen enough of life and death to be pretty hardened by it and don't expect it would affect me much. But if I were to experience it as a much younger and less life experienced person then I can see how it would affect someone very badly.

 

[Suarez7]

Surely the person hits the wheels which wouldn't be visable to the driver? I've no idea, mind.

Have you read the thread?

Someone on the first page clearly states a driver had someones hand/arm impale the glass.

 

[drunkenmaster]

i would presume one of the reasons people jump infront of a train is, its a step/jump, it's fairly easy in that sense and it's fairly final.

You take pills, you have minutes/hours to regret, get help, have friends/family call help, have help forced on you. It's not certain in many ways, it's not definitive. Jump infront of a train is usually pretty definitive and quick.

One of the biggest things is, if suicide was legal and people could get help doing it, they wouldn't be forced into such extreme methods. If you decided you didn't want to go on you could go to a safe clinic, do it quietly, painlessly, without the collateral damage who would jump infront of trains... answer is no one.

It's the general strange morality that deems suicide wrong that pushes people into these extremes when helping people do the same thing painlessly is easily the better and more moral option.

 

[WillyNelson]

How mildly inconvenient for you.

I was delayed by the same incident and yes, I was mildly inconvenienced. I arrived at work half an hour late, had to stand on Platform 2 at Gatwick for 20mins and missed my breakfast. I appreciate your conern.

 

[Yas786]

His opening line is: Today my journey was delayed.

Well done on your pathetic attempt at comprehension.

LOL seems like someone needs to go back to school to learn how to read and comprehend what the OP said . He said, i quote:

I'm not moaning about the delay in anyway shape or form it got me thinking about the collateral effects

Well done on your pathetic attempt to deflect the blame on me lol. Grow up doofer. .

 

[doofer]

If he's not moaning 'in any shape or form' why is it the first thing he ****ing says?