Poll: Which Next Gen Console will you buy? - Final version (honest!)

What console(s) will you buy during the launch window?

  • I will buy both consoles during the launch window

    Votes: 67 6.5%

  • I will buy an Xbox One only during the launch window

    Votes: 185 18.0%

  • I will buy a PS4 only during the launch window

    Votes: 395 38.4%

  • I will buy neither console during the launch window

    Votes: 286 27.8%

  • I'm still undecided

    Votes: 95 9.2%
  • Total voters
    1,028
iv-tecman said:
Well its my 40th on 4th dec, PS4 is out around this time, I mentioned to the missus I can play Playstation games on my vita and not have to go upstairs and can sit in the living room at the same time and as she likes me to be in the same room with her (hence me having such a powerful laptop - see sig) she was like - oh wow thats amazing.. i'll buy you one for your 40th..!! Sold.

i'd have purchased a Ps4 anyhow, but seeing as its now a gift as well for a 40th (you're never too old for games eh?) it'll find a use I'm sure.

She can watch endless Eastenders, I can play Ps4 games on my vita, and for a treat I can always plug the Ps4 into my laptop for proper 1080 gaming so its all a bit win win for me considering how I game..
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I think if I had to play like this just to keep the missus happy I'd quit gaming or find a new woman :D
 
How do they know they have a faster processor or better audio chip? I was unaware sony released info about the cpu speed or any significant details on their audio chip? :confused:

edit: I suppose we could just assume that someone leaked info to them about it. But then we only have msoft's word.
 
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Zhokel said:
How do they know they have a faster processor or better audio chip? I was unaware sony released info about the cpu speed or any significant details on their audio chip? :confused:
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I'm led to believe the PS4 CPU is 1.6Ghz (unconfirmed of course), and that the Xbox One has a dedicated Audio Processor while the PS4 doesn't. I could be wrong on that, but that's what I seem to recall reading.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I'm led to believe the PS4 CPU is 1.6Ghz (unconfirmed of course), and that the Xbox One has a dedicated Audio Processor while the PS4 doesn't. I could be wrong on that, but that's what I seem to recall reading.
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Nothing has been officially said about an Audio Processor in the PS4, so people have assumed it doesn't have one, we don't know for sure though
 
XeNoN89 said:
Nothing has been officially said about an Audio Processor in the PS4, so people have assumed it doesn't have one, we don't know for sure though
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Ah, I stand corrected then :)

Edit: I would be interested to see if MS do have some proper technical guys come out and explain their viewpoint that the Xbox One is on a par with the PS4. To most people, it's not really that close in terms of power, yet they keep saying it is. Obviously you'd expect them to say that, but if they come out with some kind of technical proof, I'll be very impressed.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I'm led to believe the PS4 CPU is 1.6Ghz (unconfirmed of course), and that the Xbox One has a dedicated Audio Processor while the PS4 doesn't. I could be wrong on that, but that's what I seem to recall reading.
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http://www.gamechup.com/mark-cerny-ps4-contains-a-dedicated-audio-processing-chip/

Nah it does appear to have its own chip. But they don't go into much specifically about what it can do (technical wise) where msoft has I think, although I may of heard about the X1 chip in a video somewhere for titanfall. Cannot remember! :(
 
I'm pleased Panello has come out and said that, at the end of the day they are the only people holding all the cards with regards actual facts about their system.

Everything else is just guff.
 
MrMarvelous said:
Looks like the PS4 will kill the XBone, regardless of the poll or not. :D
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Possibly, though both are already pretty much sold out with regards to pre-orders. It'll be more interesting to see what either company does down the line when one of them (almost certainly Sony) start to take a big lead. Will MS come up with a big price drop? A Kinect-less SKU? More free games? I don't think MS will take a defeat lying down, so I think they'll try something.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
In what way?
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Anyone that understands what he said just knows its poorly formulated.

For example memory bandwidths just dont magically add up like that in this particular case, as the DDR3 feeds the eSRAM which then goes into the GPU pipeline - its effectively inline cache so therefore the way hes calculated it is fundamentally wrong...

I cant see how else eSRAM is going to be populated, its not gonna be anywhere near that bandwidth if it was directly from the HDD so thats pretty absurd.

EDIT: Then theres stuff where he basically says you cant depend on theoreticals (where he mentions inherent inefficiencies when you have more CUs) yet on the next line qualifies their GPU clock improvement but ignores the same flawed theoretical argument. Either use theoreticals or dont, just dont massage it like hes doing...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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ps3ud0 said:
Anyone that understands what he said just knows its poorly formulated.

For example memory bandwidths just dont magically add up like that in this particular case, as the DDR3 feeds the eSRAM which then goes into the GPU pipeline - its effectively inline cache so therefore the way hes calculated it is fundamentally wrong...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I take your point, but I don't blame him for coming out and trying to defend the Xbox, it's his job after all. Who knows though, some of what he said may well be true.

Edit: Or could there be some technical magic going on that allows the GPU to access the DDR3 and eSRAM at the same time?
 
ps3ud0 said:
Anyone that understands what he said just knows its poorly formulated.

For example memory bandwidths just dont magically add up like that in this particular case, as the DDR3 feeds the eSRAM which then goes into the GPU pipeline - its effectively inline cache so therefore the way hes calculated it is fundamentally wrong...

I cant see how else eSRAM is going to be populated, its not gonna be anywhere near that bandwidth if it was directly from the HDD so thats pretty absurd.

EDIT: Then theres stuff where he basically says you cant depend on theoreticals (where he mentions inherent inefficiencies when you have more CUs) yet on the next line qualifies their GPU clock improvement but ignores the same flawed theoretical argument. Either use theoreticals or dont, just dont massage it like hes doing...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Microsoft did the same thing with the 360 as well. They added separate bandwidths together to get a higher a number
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I take your point, but I don't blame him for coming out and trying to defend the Xbox, it's his job after all. Who knows though, some of what he said may well be true.

Edit: Or could there be some technical magic going on that allows the GPU to access the DDR3 and eSRAM at the same time?
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Sorry I added more to my post, but fundamentally unless they work seperately (in parallel) you just cant add their bandwidth together like he did. Considering what can populate the eSRAM its very unlikely not to be the DDR3 and if thats the case its nowhere as qualified as the calculation he just made - its a joke to describe it as a headline like he just did as far as I understand it...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Edit: Or could there be some technical magic going on that allows the GPU to access the DDR3 and eSRAM at the same time?
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The whole point of the eSRAM is to make up for the lack of bandwidth of DDR3 when communicating with the GPU, so it wouldn't make sense for it to access both the DDR3 and eSRAM separately as the GPU -> DDR3 would be way too slow without going through the eSRAM first.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Possibly, though both are already pretty much sold out with regards to pre-orders. It'll be more interesting to see what either company does down the line when one of them (almost certainly Sony) start to take a big lead. Will MS come up with a big price drop? A Kinect-less SKU? More free games? I don't think MS will take a defeat lying down, so I think they'll try something.
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I remember reading somewhere that they had poor yields hence them dropping out of a lot of territories. The XBone also won't be in Japan till 2014, not that anyone cares there about it.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Sorry I added more to my post, but fundamentally unless they work seperately (in parallel) you just cant add their bandwidth together like he did. Considering what can populate the eSRAM its very unlikely not to be the DDR3 and if thats the case its nowhere as qualified as the calculation he just made - its a joke to describe it as a headline like he just did as far as I understand it...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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It does seem a little off when you put it like that. Perhaps that's why he said he wants a technical person to explain it all? Maybe there is something not explained that we don't know about? I'm not defending him, just speculating.
 
MrMarvelous said:
I remember reading somewhere that they had poor yields hence them dropping out of a lot of territories. The XBone also won't be in Japan till 2014, not that anyone cares there about it.
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Well, MS have said it's not due to low yields but localisation issues, but whether you believe that is obviously another matter. Either way, launching in only 13 territories compared to the 31(?) of the PS4 is obviously going to hurt their global sales.

It'll be interesting to see the US numbers when they are released. The Xbox has traditionally been the main console over there, and I wonder whether the changes they have made will be enough to stop the PS4 taking over.
 
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