*** iPhone 5S/5C - September 10th ***

Robbo said:
What would you have liked to have seen? Mobile tech in general at the moment has hit a bit of a ceiling, Samsung have the same issue.

Assuming it works extremely well, I'd say biometrics is innovation to some degree, it's the first real and fast implementation of it on a phone, and it's something the vast majority of people would use.
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The Motorola Atrix had a finger print scanner on the power button for passwords and such. It was replaced by face recognition for the razr/ICS, then by voice recognition in the Moto X.

Apple are just using it for a future secure wireless payment service. Maybe they'll succeed where all the other NFC stuff has failed, that's the real question.

Oh and what's the first thing to break on an iPhone? That pesky home button! :D
 
Robbo said:
What would you have liked to have seen? Mobile tech in general at the moment has hit a bit of a ceiling, Samsung have the same issue.
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Motorola managed some pretty neat innovations recently - MotoMaker in the US makes the idea of 5 different colour plastics 'last-gen' already.

Touchless Controls. Active Notifications and Gesture Controls/Moto Assist are also 3 genuinely useful innovations which I suspect will be replicated on most Android phones before too long and then introduced as ground-breaking ideas on the iPhone 6 :p

All three of those features are good examples of what Apple used to do, take existing concepts (voice recognition, AMOLED screens, location/accelerometers) and make them into solid and useful features.

Shame the X isn't available in the UK/EU but there we go :p
 
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sarge78 said:
The Motorola Atrix had a finger print scanner on the power button for passwords and such. It was replaced by face recognition for the razr/ICS, then by voice recognition in the Moto X.

Apple are just using it for a future secure wireless payment service. Maybe they'll succeed where all the other NFC stuff has failed, that's the real question.

Oh and what's the first thing to break on an iPhone? That pesky home button! :D
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My home button is broken ! haha

Although I think the scanner is trigger by the metal ring, not by pressing the button.
 
theheyes said:
So the passcode, which I assume by default is a PIN, is the master key? If I know your passcode and physically access your device without you knowing, can I unlock your iPhone?

To me, with regards to accessing the device, that puts the feature firmly in the convenience category rather than the security even though it's being pushed as the latter.

That's not to say there aren't any security benefits, I just think it's important people scrutinize it a little. If it gets people adding a security layer to their phone who otherwise wouldn't bother then that's a good thing.
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Apple customers who wish the use Touch ID also have to create a passcode as a backup. Only that passcode (not a finger) can unlock the phone if the phone is rebooted or hasn’t been unlocked for 48 hours. This feature is meant to block hackers from stalling for time as they try to find a way to circumvent the fingerprint scanner.
 
not looking good on UK pricing :/ three dont have anything up for the 5s yet but the 5c they want £41 a month and £49 upfront for 'the one plan'.

Compare to the 5 when that launched when Three wanted £36 a month and £49 up front :/

Extortionate.
 
Raymond Lin said:
My home button is broken ! haha

Although I think the scanner is trigger by the metal ring, not by pressing the button.
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Hopefully you have to activate the screen by pressing either button in order for the finger print scanner to work as I pull it out of my pocket using the dimple to grip it.
 
Alpherah said:
not looking good on UK pricing :/ three dont have anything up for the 5s yet but the 5c they want £41 a month and £49 upfront for 'the one plan'.

Compare to the 5 when that launched when Three wanted £36 a month and £49 up front :/

Extortionate.
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Yeah, just saw that. It's quite ridiculous.
 
are there any providers I'm forgetting, i've got voda, o2 and ee. tesco don't have the 5c up yet and virgin don't do iphones.

because at the moment EE is winning the contract race. but a canadian sim free is still coming in at quite a bit cheaper (£230) with my £11/month sim only deal. however the price closes to £100 cheaper if its the UK unlocked iPhone 5c.
 
I just don't see the point of long contracts now, I can buy a 5S direct from Apple and keep my 1 month rolling Virgin sim which gives me pretty much the same benefits as those EE ones, and still come out with more money in my pocket over 12 months.

I'm not tied in, the phone is unlocked from the off and I can do as I please.

Anyway, pink 5C and white case ordered this morning for the GF. I'm not sure I agree on the 5C pricing, but it will keep her happy while I get GTAV/Xbox One/PS4 :p
 
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