Madeleine McCann's parents

And wasn't that not the first time either?

So it would seem.
As I have said before, the worst sort of annoyance and anger comes when you know that firmly and 100% you could have prevented something from happening and you didn't, and its your own personal loss at the end of it.
The loss of a child from a preventable action is possibly the worst form of this.
It is why they won't give up, they hope to have her back, as if that will in some way forgive them for leaving her alone in the first place.
 
So it would seem.
As I have said before, the worst sort of annoyance and anger comes when you know that firmly and 100% you could have prevented something from happening and you didn't, and its your own personal loss at the end of it.
The loss of a child from a preventable action is possibly the worst form of this.
It is why they won't give up, they hope to have her back, as if that will in some way forgive them for leaving her alone in the first place.

It is because they are guilty of negligence and they know it.
 
It is because they are guilty of negligence and they know it.

Oh exactly my point.
Anything you do in life, where you know you are the one to blame, is the worst sort of personal annoyance.
When there is no one else to blame, where you can't point a finger except at yourself, that's the worst irritation.
 
Oh exactly my point.
Anything you do in life, where you know you are the one to blame, is the worst sort of personal annoyance.
When there is no one else to blame, where you can't point a finger except at yourself, that's the worst irritation.

Indeed. I think it is probably a little more than an irritation to the McCanns though. I expect it is a huge part of their lives and will remain so until and if they find their daughter.
 
Problem with McCanns is that once you start lying you can't stop.

I think it's sickening to use funds donated to "find" Madeleine to prosecute a former policeman for simply saying what the Portugese police actually believe - that the girl is dead and the parents are explicitly involved but there's only circumstantial evidence and no body to prove it.

The McCanns have spent a fortune from the fund on solicitors (Carter Ruck amongst others) to attempt to silence people who believe that they killed the girl. If they are truly innocent why would a retired policeman and a few people on the internet even bother them, let alone enough to divert funds from looking for their child?
 
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What annoys me is how they were treated by the press, if they were a different social class, they would have been thrown to the lions for what they did.
 
What annoys me is how they were treated by the press, if they were a different social class, they would have been thrown to the lions for what they did.


What? They were treated by the press as guilty. Or did you forget the court case against several British papers where the papers in question admitted making stuff up about them to make them look guilty? The papers were every bit as snide and accusatory as many on this forum.
 
Where do you think they have stashed the cash because they haven't spent it on a new house, car or other worldly goods?

I was being a bit sarcastic, but it does seem that every year there is some form of legal action from these two and it seems to involve money, does that not seem strange? There are also plenty of ways to hide money if you are that way inclined.

I do hope that they didnt have anything to do with what happened to Maddy but i have my doubts like quite a lot of people, the whole thing is fishy. But i could be totally wrong, just my view.
 
where you can't point a finger except at yourself,

Except she doesn't she projects it all outwards. Complete denial. It's our police forces fault, it their police forces fault, it's because she has a [flat chest] (the best one she has come out with so far), etc etc.

It's never never that she and her husband were totally negligent and irresponsible. They are lucky no sanction has been taken against them in relation to their children and you could argue neither of them should be allowed to practice their profession which they placed into disrepute with their negligence.

until and if they find their daughter.

If they hadn't of gone about how they did they may have stood a chance. The merry hell they raised has more likely ensured they never find out what happened if they weren't party to what went on. People will have just hid the evidence . I can't help but thing more discrete inquiries would have gained a better outcome.
 
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What? They were treated by the press as guilty. Or did you forget the court case against several British papers where the papers in question admitted making stuff up about them to make them look guilty? The papers were every bit as snide and accusatory as many on this forum.

They left 3 children, all 4 or under alone and unsupervised. They were no victims, it was their fault.
 
Problem with McCanns is that once you start lying you can't stop.

I think it's sickening to use funds donated to "find" Madeleine to prosecute a former policeman for simply saying what the Portugese police actually believe - that the girl is dead and the parents are explicitly involved but there's only circumstantial evidence and no body to prove it.

The McCanns have spent a fortune from the fund on solicitors (Carter Ruck amongst others) to attempt to silence people who believe that they killed the girl. If they are truly innocent why would a retired policeman and a few people on the internet even bother them, let alone enough to divert funds from looking for their child?

I don't understand why people can't grasp this.

The whole point of defamation laws is to hold people/groups to account who make slanderous and libellous comments against another party, especially when it involves financial gain. The Former Detective we are discussing here published his story to make money, money which he is making from defaming a family. Just like as pointed out above, Newspaper Editors did similar untoward things with the McCann story in order to sell newspapers.

As I've already pointed out, what makes this case even more ridiculous than other similar cases is that we are talking about a Detective whose job it was to gather evidence and build a case against the McCanns if there was one to be made. He didn't do that, the McCanns were never found guilty of anything and he was even considered a bumbling idiot for contaminating a crime scene. If he is really so sure of these comments he has published, why did he fail to find absolutely anything to support his claims?

They have every right to sue him and the publisher.... just like if I published a book claiming how I thought you were a pedophile. With nothing at all to substantiate my claims, you have ever right to sue me to defend your name.
 
They have every right to sue him and the publisher.....

Yes they do and people would still be well within their rights to wonder why they are spending money on protecting their image and not finding out what happened to their daughter (presuming of course they don't actually know). I am sure that Maddie autobiography they had penned was wholly factual throughout and didn't paint any of the police as incompetent or negligent without adequate proof.
 
Yes they do and people would still be well within their rights to wonder why they are spending money on protecting their image and not finding out what happened to their daughter (presuming of course they don't actually know). I am sure that Maddie autobiography they had penned was wholly factual throughout and didn't paint any of the police as incompetent or negligent without adequate proof.

Indeed.
 
Yes they do and people would still be well within their rights to wonder why they are spending money on protecting their image and not finding out what happened to their daughter (presuming of course they don't actually know). I am sure that Maddie autobiography they had penned was wholly factual throughout and didn't paint any of the police as incompetent or negligent without adequate proof.

If you just sit back and let somebody tarnish your name though, it can then become ingrained that it is what happened. Just take some of the child sex cases coming to light recently, there are people being pointed out as sex pests who aren't.

I can see how people might present the case that they are spending money from the fund on fighting such things, but ultimately their legal team knows they have a case and will more than likely be awarded far more than the fees were anyway.
 
If you just sit back and let somebody tarnish your name though, it can then become ingrained that it is what happened. Just take some of the child sex cases coming to light recently, there are people being pointed out as sex pests who aren't.

I can see how people might present the case that they are spending money from the fund on fighting such things, but ultimately their legal team knows they have a case and will more than likely be awarded far more than the fees were anyway.

I think the issue is money donated in good faith to find the child is being used to fight court cases protecting the image of the parents.
 
If you just sit back and let somebody tarnish your name though, it can then become ingrained that it is what happened.

Do you believe good people can make mistakes?

If so why did you describe the detective as bumbling? Maybe he had to write the book to get money because the McCanns and their actions destroyed his career.

They went on a witchhunt against everyone who could not get their daughter back. When the finger of blame is solely pointed at them. If they had not been so selfish, irresponsible, negligent and reckless then this would never have come to pass.

It's no secret we have some real 'tards on this forum however saying that I don't think anyone would actually say it was ok to leave kids that young alone - especially in a foreign country so you could go out for something to eat, drink and a chat. That very fact should tell you they should start answering some questions themselves.

And as Castiel said the money was to find the girl or what happened to her not protect someone who feels wounded because they've been labelled wrongly. Well they are damn lucky people haven't been more vocal about what we can prove and therefore have sanctions related to their other children applied. Moreover, there is plenty of unexplained evidence that has to be refuted by them.
 
They left 3 children, all 4 or under alone and unsupervised. They were no victims, it was their fault.



There's a vast gulf between minor neglect and being accused of murder. The detective in question is going a lot further than just accusing them of leaving their kids unattended.

And for the people saying that it doesn't look good allowing money raised to find their daughter to used to fight a libel case? Well, it doesn't look good to allow an accusation of murder to stand either. On the whole, the latter will kill donations (assuming they are still getting any) a lot quicker than the former. It's not as though a lot of people don't already think the parents killed the child. Based on absolutely no evidence.
 
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