How can you say that when you have just previously quoted a situation where a woman has less rights than a man as indicated by Islam?
Converting in order to marry a Muslim girl.
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How can you say that when you have just previously quoted a situation where a woman has less rights than a man as indicated by Islam?
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@OP, I don't see how your love and commitment to each other would be strengthened by joining a religion you're obviously not inclined to join (otherwise you would have of your own volition).
Save the money from the wedding and go on a massive holiday?
Save the money from the wedding and go on a massive holiday?
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FTFY.
Err, so is it culture or religion that concurrently permits Muslim males to marry Christians and Jews but Muslim women to marry only Muslim men?
Its for religious reasons, im sorry i didnt make that clear in my post above...i shall amend it now.
When i talk about culture, im talking about other stuff that people blow out of proportion in here
Ive always said that it isnt Islam but rather culture that stops women from getting more rights.
Heres a thought fella, why not do some reading about Islam, understanding what its all about before jumping in with your comments
Your post had nothing to do with culture AFAIK... rather it highlighted a double standard within the religion itself. Are you now saying that its simply culture not Islam which dictates that a muslim woman can't marry a non-muslim but the same rule doesn't apply to men.
probs a bit controversial in the west but if you do convert and marry her then apparently your new religion not only considers you to be superior to her but allows you to carry out a bit of wife beating if you're feeling particularly misogynistic... (well according to some Islamic types... then again when have religious people ever been consistent about these things...)
(obviously there are a few rules - can't hit the face, break any bones and can only beat her 10 times etc... though seemingly Allah is cool with a bit of domestic violence as long as you don't go too far with it.)
(obviously there are a few rules - can't hit the face, break any bones and can only beat her 10 times etc... though seemingly Allah is cool with a bit of domestic violence as long as you don't go too far with it.)
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Fact is RDM, if a muslim woman wants to marry a non muslim man, nothing is stopping her from doing so in reality
. Unless you are talking about her family then they could possibly stop her or talk her out of it. The reasons for this are purely religious and nothing to do with rights as i posted above with the reasons why its not allowed.
I can only draw upon my own experiences with this happening ie my mums sister married a sikh guy despite her parents(RIP) trying to convince her not to. She did, he converted into Islam but after they got married...they moved up north to be closer to his family and he then reverted back into being Sikh and being a controlling SOB to put it politely. He now drinks like a fish, beats on his wife and used to beat his daughters silly. Sad thing is her kids dont know if they are sikh or muslim and its caused no end of issues as when his daughters got married a few yrs ago...my aunts muslim side of the family were banned from attending the religious sikh marriage ceremonies...not that we wanted to go anyways but this is just one example of why it is not allowed in Islam.
But im not saying this happens all the time, i imagine some muslim women who arent in any way religious have married non muslim guys and are now happily living their lives.
Each to their own as i say.
Anyhow im done with this thread as it is, no more to add really. Enjoy going round in circles
its not really a good example as you could switch the faiths around, have a Muslim man and a non-Muslim wife and cause the same family drama
doesn't really explain the double standard
Fact is RDM, if a muslim woman wants to marry a non muslim man, nothing is stopping her from doing so in reality
The reasons for this are purely religious and nothing to do with rights as i posted above with the reasons why its not allowed.
So Islam does discriminate against women? I know that in this country she could indeed do what she wants, but that is effectively going against her religion.
Islam, like Judaism, Catholicism and some other forms of Christianity are inherently sexist, it is up to the individual if they find the justifications given acceptable.
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Perhaps as in Islam when a woman marries she goes over to the mans family, not vice versa.
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At the end of the day she is doing it to please her parents. I can bet my house on that. She doesn't give a **** if you're Muslim or not. Whether she would wants her children to grow up in an Islamic environment is something she probably hasn't even considered and something which probably wouldn't even happen if you were to marry anyway.
You never know there are instances where good does come out of this and those who convert actually end up being good Muslims.
You never know there are instances where good does come out of this and those who convert actually end up being good Muslims.
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Love should transcend religion. You cannot impose your beliefs on someone that you are meant to love.
It's hard man because they feel their family would disown them so it's really a case of them vs you. Can't blame her for not wanting to lose her family for the sake of what's just. It can be a very difficult situation for her bare that in mind, but ultimately don't be forced to be something that you don't want to be.
It's hard man because they feel their family would disown them so it's really a case of them vs you. Can't blame her for not wanting to lose her family for the sake of what's just. It can be a very difficult situation for her bare that in mind, but ultimately don't be forced to be something that you don't want to be.
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</P><P> </P><P>Yep, in the West if they don't like the man you marry, there are a few quarrels then everyone gets over it. If they don't like him over there, you get disowned. </P>
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