Converting in order to marry a Muslim girl.

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Tefal said:
if you don't belive what you're really asking is "should i pretend to be a Muslim to marry a Muslim girl"
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I pretended to be Christian to marry my wife and that has worked out ok so far. Obviously she was well aware of my lack of belief.
 
I've had hindu cousins marry muslim partners (among other various religions), both genders. Afaik, no one had to convert; they are all modern grown ups capable of respecting and taking part in each other's religion, without converting.

It will usually boil down to the families' choice and insistence.
 
dowie said:
probs a bit controversial in the west but if you do convert and marry her then apparently your new religion not only considers you to be superior to her but allows you to carry out a bit of wife beating if you're feeling particularly misogynistic... (well according to some Islamic types... then again when have religious people ever been consistent about these things...)


(obviously there are a few rules - can't hit the face, break any bones and can only beat her 10 times etc... though seemingly Allah is cool with a bit of domestic violence as long as you don't go too far with it.)
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The funny thing about your post is that you actually think it's valid because you've quoted a so called ''imam''. The guy you've quoted is as credible as an atheist dropping the 101 on Islam.
 
Lord_Kokain said:
wow I thought I would be answering specific people when I see this thread again but I guess its not something shocking given the popularity of OCUK. Whether serious or not so, thanks for the responses guys! Some of you make her seem like a Saudi Arabian import or something like that but religion hardly comes up. Talks of marriage starts to creep up because she eventually wants children and would definitely not have them just as a couple. The rule comes neither from her, definitely not her parents (they lived mostly in Soviet times and people then knew their religion only on paper) but she is somehow scared to ignore it.
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Do you want your Children brought up as muslims? I am not saying there is anything wrong with it but is it something you want out of life?

Also remember she may not have any faith now and may not be religious but quite often this changes as they get older.

I have seen some rather sad situations where family members have married non practicing muslim men they went to uni with, they became much more religious later in life and are now forced to live following a muslim way of living.
 
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Why would any woman even want to be a muslim? Funny how he is the one who has to convert.And i guess she will come from Ukraine to here too?

To be honest is sounds like she wears the trousers.Make her convert or have both children secular until 18 and educate them into the sky wizard's ways.


I do love the skywizard quote well done the chap who said it earlier :)
 
It seems completely illogical to adopt a religion without any sort of belief in what it stands for, remember you are not just acknowledging her beliefs in some whim to gain acceptance by her community, you are adopting a whole new way of life.

Is it really acceptable to pray to a higher power, day in and day out the whole time having no belief in what you are doing, saying, or who you are saying it to. It is more of a disrespect to her faith and comparable to taking the lords name in vain isn't it?

I would say have more respect for your self and your partner, and would hope if it was me in your position that she would have more respect for me than to expect me to live a lie in order to be with her. You have already stated that she follows certain aspects while not following others, she obviously seems like it is more of what conveniences her than about a devout following of faith, why can she not forgo something that would impact her life or yours negatively in such a way if this is the case?

The other alternative of course is do not get married, why compromise your self or your beliefs. At the end of the day it comes down to a piece of paper and nothing more, It can't be your commitment to the institution of marriage as it would be based on a lie.
 
I know a lot of Turkish people who are both Christian and Muslim - both tick those boxes but whist they hardly visit a place of worship, it's more about the culture/habits of their family. The Turks (from the west at least) are far less 'religious' and much more western in their behaviours.

So converting seems pointless, besides, you need to have beliefs to convert from in the first place no?
 
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