...And Justice For All (Metallica)

Nitefly

Nitefly

Nitefly

Man of Honour
Joined
24 Sep 2005
Posts
37,499
I've been listening to this album a lot recently and I think the scrutiny and criticism it gets over the production is ridiculous. It does have a 'wall of sound' feeling to it, but ultimately it just sounds like a monstrous juggernaut. I also think the comments about the lack of bass are unfounded. There is bass, it's just within the 'wall' and it's tough to make it out by itself.

I think it's great, definitely their best lyrically and certainly their heaviest \m/,

Thoughts?
 
One of their finest albums ever created. I may have to dig that out later tonight for a blast.

I'd put S&M up there too, loved that album. The concert was a joy to watch too. Albeit on DVD :(
 
Ooh hard one to call. Justice is definitely up there as one of their best. I think Puppets just slightly edges it for me though.

I do love One. What a song. Especially the video edit with the dialogue from Johnny got his Gun interspersed with it.

Mind you i'm not an audiophile. I just like what I like :)
 
Lysander said:
Are you sure you're not listening to the remaster? I don't think "walls of sound" existed as such in the 80s.
Click to expand...

...And Justice For All was recorded in slightly partisan way and during downmix they had to "scoop" middles for guitar tracks to stop clashing with overdubs and bass. The effect is really solid "wall of sound-ish" like heavily compressed battery of "riffage" with almost identical amp settings (which oddly for Metallica from today's perspective sound a little too "american", too mesa-with-chorus like) that from guitar track to guitar track sound almost the same in both channels throughout most of the album.

The later proper "wall of sound" digital remasters certainly didn't help from the mids perspective, but those who had vinyl on good deck through quality speakers certainly couldn't complain about lack of bass in terms of the range. It's just the bass guitar track stripped off half the range is completely sunk in guitar overdubs and thus doesn't really have either impact of either Cliff's unique "it's just another solo guitar" riffing bass range on MoP nor spacial variety of Newsted's "black album" work.

At this point one would need to point to the remixes of songs from "...AJFA" made with guitar hero tracks on youtube, that bring back the mids and make both drums and bass properly stand out from guitar front, but unfortunately between Metallica's own militant anti napsterism and a minefield of release label's claiming inherent copyrights to the "..AJFA" material most of them were removed from YouTube via DMCA requests.
 
v0n said:
At this point one would need to point to the remixes of songs from "...AJFA" made with guitar hero tracks on youtube, that bring back the mids and make both drums and bass properly stand out from guitar front, but unfortunately between Metallica's own militant anti napsterism and a minefield of release label's claiming inherent copyrights to the "..AJFA" material most of them were removed from YouTube via DMCA requests.
Click to expand...

...And Justice for Jason, for me:cool:
 
Last edited:
james.miller said:
...And Justice for Jason, for me:cool:
Click to expand...

That's what I was talking about. Just about all of the remixes are now gone:
ajfj.jpg
 
Disaster said:
i think the album sounds fine, the drums sound monstrous on that record
Click to expand...

Harvester of Sorrow sounds so awesome. :)

And I always found the bass in Blackened to be overpowering o.O

Think James' voice sounds the best on Ride the Lightning the verse after the solo on Ride the Lightning is amazing.

Most powerful drums are on For Whom the Bell Tolls for me. They sound phenomenal. Not fast, just powerful.
 
Last edited:
I replaced my MP3 copy with And Justice for Jason

It is my second favourite after MOP and I'm wearing the t-shirt as I type.
Actually about 15 minutes ago a delivery driver dropped something off, pointed to my t-shirt and said 'They have just released a new album' :confused:
 
Dimple said:
Actually about 15 minutes ago a delivery driver dropped something off, pointed to my t-shirt and said 'They have just released a new album' :confused:
Click to expand...

They have, "Through The Never" soundtrack. Also available at your nearest iMax cinema. :D
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom