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Considering an 8350... Am I as mad as a brush?

Th0nt said:
Wierd considering the FM2 is newer..
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Yes but FM2 is for chips with intergrated grahics which none of the regular FX chips have ATM.

Im sure AMD would find it easier to fight against intel if they could use a newer more modern socket set but I feel it would alienate a lot of users who look at amd as a decent budget setup with a good upgrade path. I for one applaud AMD for sticking with AM3+ even if it might be holding them back.

Intel 5 different sockets in 5 years?? 1366. 1150, 1155, 11156 and 2011.
 
Orch said:
I'm starving. Can I have a 2540 x 1600 please! :D
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Well my cooking equipment is lacking so i can only cook upto around 1080p but then again we are "cooking" a cpu are we not?.. Get it ? get it? :p im so cheesy

dfour said:
Yes but FM2 is for chips with intergrated grahics which none of the regular FX chips have ATM.

Im sure AMD would find it easier to fight against intel if they could use a newer more modern socket set but I feel it would alienate a lot of users who look at amd as a decent budget setup with a good upgrade path. I for one applaud AMD for sticking with AM3+ even if it might be holding them back.

Intel 5 different sockets in 5 years?? 1366. 1150, 1155, 11156 and 2011.
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Being already on the am3+ platform and only have had that for 1 cpu so fare i wouldnt mind buying a new sabertooth board for the steamroller if it turned out to be AM4 or something along those lines.
 
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Phixsator said:
Being already on the am3+ platform and only have had that for 1 cpu so fare i wouldnt mind buying a new sabertooth board for the steamroller if it turned out to be AM4 or something along those lines.
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As long as the steamroller chip has the performance over piledriver and is more competative with haswell then I would also be willing to upgrade but that would be a very expensive upgrade if it was AM4 with new ddr 4.
 
The fact that you run VMs I would say go for the 8320 as well, it should be able to overclock similiar to the 8350. Just make sure you have a beefy cooler to cool the CPU if you plan to overclock it.

The problem with the midend Intel platforms is not all virtualization technologies are avaliable, which can be a pain with VMs...
 
Although the initial cost of an FX 8320 / 8350 might be a little cheaper over an I5, if the OP is considering using this PC for many years, than power consumption is worth a thought. Over the span of 3-5+ years an 8320 / 8350 will cost you a fair chunk more than an i5 CPU to run.

Might be worth consideration..
 
Actually the more I think about it, if the OP is building a new PC, Haswell i5 with cheap mobo will probably be similar price to buy than an FX 8320 / 8350 setup.

For example I paid only £300 for my 4770K and the motherboard. You could pick up a 4670K and mobo for prob around £220+

With that and power consumption in mind, I would def go with an Intel Haswell i5 CPU.
 
I just upgraded my phenom 2 945 to a fx 8320 (already had an asus sabertooth m/board) overclocked it to 4ghz need better cooling togo higher. I have seen quite an improvement bf3 and crysis 3 are all smoother with better minimum framerates. 3dmsrk 11 went from 7000 to 9800. Overall very happy with the chip.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Actually the more I think about it, if the OP is building a new PC, Haswell i5 with cheap mobo will probably be similar price to buy than an FX 8320 / 8350 setup.

For example I paid only £300 for my 4770K and the motherboard. You could pick up a 4670K and mobo for prob around £220+

With that and power consumption in mind, I would def go with an Intel Haswell i5 CPU.
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+1

I personally would go for an I5, its a great performing CPU, lower power consumption, potential upgrade options e.g. to an I7, with AMD you'll be stuck with the 8350, there is no upgrade option.

I originally had a 2500K, I found a good deal and jumped onto a 2600K for £20 more.
 
yes there is the next set of chips codenamed piledriver. If intel is nice they might stick with socket 1155 for another chip but i wouldnt hold my breath.
 
dfour said:
yes there is the next set of chips codenamed piledriver. If intel is nice they might stick with socket 1155 for another chip but i wouldnt hold my breath.
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I'd do some research on both AMD and Intel before giving any advice.
Am3+ may get steamroller, it may not.
And 1150? I wouldn't like to make any assumptions on that either way at the moment.
Socket ignorance is blinding in this thread.

That said, the fx8320 looks a good shout for the OP, but I'd be waiting for concrete news on steamroller before going AMD.
 
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Martini1991 said:
I'd do some research on both AMD and Intel before giving any advice.
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Haha :p

Since i now have very limited knowledge of VM's(thanks to humbug). Are you guys saying he's better off sticking to a quad core over an 8 core when it comes to VM's?
 
Martini1991 said:
I'd do some research on both AMD and Intel before giving any advice.
Am3+ may get steamroller, it may not.
And 1150? I wouldn't like to make any assumptions on that either way at the moment.
Socket ignorance is blinding in this thread.

That said, the fx8320 looks a good shout for the OP, but I'd be waiting for concrete news on steamroller before going AMD.
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Thanks Martini your quite correct in both on stances I was just typing quickly and getting all my info confused :confused:
 
For the VM's with gaming not being 'hardcore'. I would perhaps go for the fx8320 oc'ed, only if AMDs upgrade path was known.

As it's not, I'd probably opt for the haswell Xeon at 190ish 4c8t with a h81 board.
 
Martini1991 said:
I'd probably opt for the haswell Xeon at 190ish 4c8t with a h81 board.
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Good shout on the Xeon, if the Op isn't going to overclock the Xeon 1230 'V3' is best bang for buck there is. Using a V2 in our HTPC and it's a beast, the V3 even more so.

If the Op is going to OC, 4670K + cheap Haswell mobo is best option. Similar price to AMD alternatives, but offers more performance and less power use. Especially if you Op wants to use your new PC build for many years. Def save money in the long run.
 
dfour said:
The other factor you could consider is upgrading later. If intel follows its usual stance it will change the socket so you will have to buy another motherboard as well as the new chip while amd is committed to the AM3+ platform (at least for a while longer) so the next chip iteration should also just pop in and work in your present board.
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I know think of all those people who bought into the 1155 socket back in 2011 and now they are stuck with cheap 2600k/2700k's that still beat anything amd have to offer. Bloody intel and their fast multi threaded chips.


:rolleyes::D
 
Boomstick777 said:
If the Op is going to OC, 4670K + cheap Haswell mobo is best option. Similar price to AMD alternatives, but offers more performance and less power use. Especially if you Op wants to use your new PC build for many years. Def save money in the long run.
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They'll consume similar amounts of power overclocked.
 
That's a good point, almost forgot about the Xeons. If you don't plan to overclock then this will be perfect, and it supports all virtualization features unlike their mainstream counterparts.
 
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