How to fix the world...

mattyfez said:
I don't agree, you can believe that situations will change, because they do, we can all demonstrate and all attest to that.

It's out dated ideals and idol worship, that seem to be a major issue.
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Can you clarify what you are trying to say here, as I cannot see how the opinion that outdated ideals and idol worship has much relevance to the pint that religion is a manifestation of Faith.

In the future, in fact it already does, Faith may well manifest in ways other than Religion..or the Religions will manifest in other ways than they currently do...some already do.

Anyway..bed. :)
 
GSWAudio said:
For me true factual education (no religion rubbish) is absolute key in living peacefully on Earth with our fellow human beings. You may not be happy this thread is trying to reach deep problems and is this short however I don't believe it needs a great deal of explanation just think about it.
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The problem is that life is not factual
 
Squark said:
Religion is NOT the cause of all the world's problems.
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It's the cause of a fair few though, religious wars stand as testament to that.

Not to mention all the oppresion and persecution but religious extremist, and religious agendas in government.

And all the brainwashing addicts, apparently they call it "breaking" an addict making them believe in a higher power even if they are an atheist.

Don't act like religious people are saints because religion has caused a lot of trouble.

The problems of this world don't stem from one cause, they are way more complex.

But the biggest problem we face in the world today is greed, some people will always want more and more, never happy with what they have, taking at any expense to their fellow man, to the wider environment. Ruthless and selfish behaviour for personal gain.
If everyone was happy just to make a steady living and enjoy their life for what it is, we could solve an awful lot of problems.
 
I think religion divides people. I agree with Castiel in that it's unlikely to ever be a sole reason for a war and it's likely the underlying causes are power and greed, but I'd also imagine it'd be a lot more difficult to justify and gain support for a war when the people actually fighting it see the opposition as pretty much the same as themselves. Religion sometimes seems to create and justify an 'us and them' attitude among many people which makes it all too easy to justify and get support for conflict. I'm not saying religion is the only cause of that though, but I think it contributes.
 
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Religion is a non-factor in terms of human conflict. People don't need religion to wage war, commit genocide, bully, persecute and so forth. The bloodiest wars in history had nothing to do with religion after all.

And I am not even sure I want to live in an wholly peaceful world, since it would almost certainly lead to stagnation.
 
Everyone is so obsessed with religion and politics. You all overlooked the biggest solution here.

Aliens.

And no I don't mean District 9 aliens where we have to feel sorry for them etc.
I'm talking Independence Day aliens; "we're here to destroy you mate". (I imagine they would call us mate.. as they don't know all our forenames)

Then finally all of humanity can be united in its urge to kill an invading/competing species.


**** religion and **** politics. Nothing good ever comes from discussing them.
 
Castiel said:
It is still the result of Human Emotion...which is the point being made...how that manifests is the justification, not the underlying cause.

The destruction of the WTC wasn't motivated by religion for example...it was justified by it..it was motivated by an opposition to a political and economic ideology that the protagonists feel subjugates them.

The Crusades for example were justified by religion, but in reality they were motivated by power brokering and land acquisition.

The Balkan conflicts, again justified by religion, but motivated by cultural and historical divisions from previous conflicts...again the underlying causes were justified by religion, religion wasn't the underlying cause.

Religion is a tool, it can be used to bring peace or to bring war...but it is still just a tool, and saying it is the cause of a conflict is like stating the Gun or the Club is the cause of a conflict.
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Not sure I'd agree with the WTC example - the motivation behind Bin Laden's quarrel with the US in the first place was the presence of US troops in Saudi.. sacred soil... purely as a result of it being home to Mecca and Medina. Not an issue with foreign troops being there in general but purely non-muslim troops. Allowing some Jordanian troops there etc.. doesn't cause the same issue. The attack itself relied on the belief of the attackers in an afterlife and a reward for their actions from a supreme being. The later stated reasons for the attack itself could be argued to be political to some extent though also still rely on the people allegedly being oppressed being pretty much unconnected other than sharing the same faith.
 
Can you really fix the world? A the end of the day most people are okay some are nice and some are complete *****. There is nothing you can do to change human nature, which is the problem.
 
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