Going to casino, how do I count cards?

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Not counting cards, but for games such as blackjack how can I learn to add up really fast, so I'm not standing there wondering what strategy to use?

I've tried online blackjack but can't find a decent one that also doesn't add up the cards for you...

Any advice?
 
Well make sure to play on manual shuffle table as card counting is pointless on machines shuffling tables.

Just google card counting strategies, there are different in terms of count weight and difficulty. Also don't expect it to be able to pull it off. If the table won't be empty and unless your math skills are lighting fast, you wont keep up with the dealer.

Most importantly just enjoy the evening.

Also if you going to be on a manual shuffle, it will probably have people who are not new to the game, so learn basic strategy/ approach, don't do something annoying like not taking a card on a 12 against dealer 10 or taking a card on 12 with dealer at 6.
 
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Its two numbers...?

Try remembering all the cards that have been dealt since the last shuffle, and working out probabilities based on that. That's tricky.
 
It's 2 numbers.... :p

I know and I have a maths degree too but I just never do mental arithmetic so I'm not as fast as I could be.

As with all things mathematical practice is the key to perfection. I'd like to just see the numbers and know
from instant memory the sum, I don't want any computation time at all.

Just like a darts player knows the score instantly from the location with no computation. I want that for blackjack.
 
The easiest one if the one where you add1, minus1 or stay. Basically you start at 0 and every time you see Ace through 4 you minus one, 5 through 8 you stay and 9 to King you add one. The lower your current figure the better the chance for high cards to come. I believe you should bet when your number's low and and fold when it's high (as the the more lower cards the more chance of getting to 17, or wherever they must stand, before you get 18-21).

However, playing best strategy is the best way to limit the odds. Counting cards may look good in the movies but doesn't really work in real life. Firstly because casinos use multiple decks and shuffle regularly. The real good ones )and online casinos) will have card randomizers which deal cards completely at random and regardless of the last hand in which case card counting serves no purpose whatsoever.

I advise you pop over to http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/ to get some proper advice. Sadly though it's brutally truthful so put aside any dreams of becoming a millionaire by using that "fail-safe" betting strategy you bought from some dodgy website.
 
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lol

addition tables? :D

Edit: Oh yes you do!

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.....don't do something annoying like not taking a card on a 12 against dealer 10 or taking a card on 12 with dealer at 16.

How is this possible under most rules of Black Jack? The dealer only shows 1 card at the point in which he lets you hit or stand, so he can't have 16 at the point i which you have to make a decision.
 
Counting cards in real life doesnt really work. It can tilt the odds in your favour but works on the principles of previous cards played and a limited number remaining that favours either high or low cards. If you know more low or high cards remain, you know there is a higher chance of getting higher or lower cards if you decide to hit.

In casinos often they shuffle regularly to prevent the cards reaching a predictable set. Card counting as you know, is the method of which you can estimate the remaining value of the cards that havnt been played and due to regular shuffling, the chances for a deck reaching a point where odds have tilted enough in your favour to make decent predictions make card counting time consuming and boring. You can even sit infront of a dealer all evening and find that no deck has tilted to a predictable extreme limit (where mostly low or high cards remain). Famous card counting stories almost always involve a group of people, so you can have them all counting cards at many different tables at the same time to see if any decks become reliable and of course there was no doubt some strong measure of luck assisting the exaggerated wins of these people.

When i studied physics, our maths lecturer set upon us the task of learning more complex card counting strategies and then applying them to much more obscure situations (where a certain number of cards are known to have been drawn and the games were normally different, games where card counting gives you a near negligible advantage) then we had to work out probabilities of pulling out certain cards/suits and hands (when this was applied to poker). This was all a way to keep us to speed with simple mathematics in long winded questions and also to give us a perspective in probabilities in real life situations when the number of unknowns are quite high. What a waste of time this was.
 
Famous card counting stories almost always involve a group of people, so you can have them all counting cards at many different tables at the same time to see if any decks become reliable

...and are usually over exaggerated and/or complete B.S.

The fact is any modern Casino is mathematically impossible to 'beat' and anyone that tells you they have some secret is lying. The only proven methods of beating the house were stomped out a long time ago (poorly calibrated roulette wheels, card counting in limited deck etc games etc).

Casinos are entertainment venues, the people who view them as get rich quick schemes are their favourite customers.
 
4 deck of cards, working out the probabilities of whether the next card will be enough to take you over or under 21 on the fly?

Good luck with that.

Or just watch that Kevin Spacey movie?
 
The fact is any modern Casino is mathematically impossible to 'beat' and anyone that tells you they have some secret is lying. The only proven methods of beating the house were stomped out a long time ago (poorly calibrated roulette wheels, card counting in limited deck etc games etc).

That's not true at all advantage play still exists in some areas and opportunities do come up which can and do get exploited by people...
 
4 deck of cards, working out the probabilities of whether the next card will be enough to take you over or under 21 on the fly?

you don't work out the probabilities on the fly... you rote-learn what to do in each situation given the cards and the count... for all the effort involved its probably not worth it at all these days and better off spending time learning to play poker
 
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