Did you agree with the Strike today?

Diagro

Diagro

Diagro

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hey

I am pro teacher and i support the action they are currently trying to take.

The government is trying to destroy the teaching profession and make it harder for teachers to do their jobs and also make it harder on parents...

They are attempting to stop the goverment destroying the pay system that is currently in force, this will cause teachers to be paid less or be at the mercy of the schools budget.
They are attempting to stop the change in school hour's. The Gove want LONGER school days and Longer time spent at school, this means teachers will be at school till 5:30 or 6pm and THEN have to do the extra work that they do now.. so that could see a finishing time of 7 or 8pm with a 7:45* start. This also shows the holiday system being destroyed and will cause havok to the tourist markets along with parents and teachers being forced to change their lives to fit it in.

Then there is pensions... They want the teachers to work Longer, Pay more into the pension and get LESS from the pension when they retire.

I feel teachers are getting abused already and any of the above changes were to come into effect i feel many would leave the profession.
But its NOT just teachers will be negatively effected, this will also effect parents and students.

So what is your say?

read this before you say its stupid:
http://www.teachers.org.uk/node/19321
 
The government is trying to destroy the teaching profession and make it harder for teachers to do their jobs and also make it harder on parents...
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If you believe this, then please tell me the reason you think they are doing this. As it seems it would be counter productive.
 
I am a teacher but I wasn't on strike today. I think the union and media combined have done a very good job of making us look like work-shy whingers. It's a hard job, but I went into it under no illusions - I don't think I'm a teacher who bleats, "No-one understands how hard we work!" - Most people don't, but why didn't you when you trained to be a teacher?

I wouldn't be in the union at all if I dared not to be - I guess I want to have my cake and eat it, I don't support them but would want them to support me.

In fact, no-one at my school was on strike today (out of 26 teachers). It's slightly different for us as we are an academy - if we are striking against our T&Cs, pensions, etc, then we are striking against our employers, not the government, which would be a different kettle of fish.
 
Tefal said:
If you believe this, then please tell me the reason you think they are doing this. As it seems it would be counter productive.
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Monkeynut said:
Why does the government want to "destroy" the teaching profession exactly?
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They don't want to, But if they push through the changes then the Good teachers will no longer wish to work for the government and thus only teachers who don't give a crap and do the least amount of work will stay and thus the students education will be destroyed.
 
vicisthebest said:
I am a teacher but I wasn't on strike today. I think the union and media combined have done a very good job of making us look like work-shy whingers. It's a hard job, but I went into it under no illusions - I don't think I'm a teacher who bleats, "No-one understands how hard we work!" - Most people don't, but why didn't you when you trained to be a teacher?

I wouldn't be in the union at all if I dared not to be - I guess I want to have my cake and eat it, I don't support them but would want them to support me.

In fact, no-one at my school was on strike today (out of 26 teachers). It's slightly different for us as we are an academy - if we are striking against our T&Cs, pensions, etc, then we are striking against our employers, not the government, which would be a different kettle of fish.
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Unfortunately As an academy you lost most of your rights :/

Why on earth do you work for an academy?
 
Assuming a 365 day year, you work for only 195 days a year. So, if we disregard the 28 days paid annual leave that full time workers are entilted to, what do you do in the other 142 days?

If you worked in England, outside London, or Wales then your pay range is from £21,804 to £31,868.

Let's say you worked 08:00-18:00 5 days a week. That's 50 hours/week, or 195 days x 10 hours = 1,950 hours. With a £26,836 ((21804+31868)/2) salary that's just over £13.76/hour - over double the minmum wage.

Doesn't seem that bad, if you ask me.

Salary and hours information taken from here: http://www.education.gov.uk/get-into-teaching/salary/pay-and-benefits
 
Diagro said:
Sigh.

They don't want too. But in effect WILL if the changes are pushed through.
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so why did you say they are trying to?

you deliberately made it sound like the government is intentionally destroying the teaching profession, now you're saying they're not.

so why did you say it in the first place unless you were trying to mislead people?

I'm going to take a stab in the dark here, but you're not just "pro teacher" are you? you are a teacher or are wishing to become one am i right?
 
No, it happens every year. I used to support them, don't get me wrong, people have the right to protest but strike is not the same thing. Plus it's every year of late and it has gotten tiresome and it seems they are never happy.

There will be something else for them to moan about next year.

Don't like it, get another job, in another profession if you have to.

Its what normal people do.

If you want to protest, do it on a Saturday.

Doing it on a weekday you are using the children as leverage, that looks terrible and set a really bad example to the very people you are trying to teach.
 
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Skidder said:
I don't want paranoid people with no grasp of politics or logic teaching my kids thanks.
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Or people Who throw Capital letters into the Middle of sentences.

Apostrophes appearing wildly I can understand, but capitals are one of the more easy rules of English to get right, no...?
 
I don't agree that it's right for them to strike. Children lose out, parents get annoyed having to change their routine and the government really doesn't care.

From what I've seen teachers do have to work hard but but it's not bad pay, they have good job security, great holiday and there are far more professions that get it worse than they do.

For example my parents are highly skilled peripatetic teachers and they slave away for pittance really. You can add dental nurses to that list, the stories I've heard...

Every strike they instigate the less and less sympathy I have for them quite honestly.
 
Teachers get a decent wage for what they do when you compare it to other professions who don't go on strike. Now you can on one hand say what are they striking about and on the other hand say they are in the better position because they are leveraging power.
 
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